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News analyst Juan Williams appears on the "Fox & friends" television program in New York, Thursday, Oct. 21, 2010. Williams, who has written extensively on race and civil rights in the U.S., has been fired by National Public Radio after comments he made about Muslims on Fox News Channel's "The O'Reilly Factor," on Monday. (AP Photo/Richard Drew)
updated 10/22/2010 7:39:44 PM ET 2010-10-22T23:39:44

NPR and its public radio stations around the country got an earful from listeners and angry citizens in the middle of pledge season Friday over its firing of commentator Juan Williams, receiving thousands of complaints and scattered threats to withhold donations.

Still, a number of major stations said they are meeting or surpassing their fundraising goals in the wake of the furor over Williams' dismissal for saying he gets nervous on a plane when he sees Muslims.

"We find ourselves kind of caught between NPR and the audience," said Craig Curtis, program director at KPCC in Pasadena, Calif., which won't hold its pledge drive until next month. He said the station had received about 150 comments on the firing, mostly disapproving, and three people asked to cancel their memberships.

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Meanwhile, conservative leaders including Sarah Palin are calling on Congress to cut off NPR's federal funding — an idea that was also raised in the 1990s and didn't get very far.

Williams was fired Wednesday over comments he made on "The O'Reilly Factor" on the Fox News Channel, his other employer. "When I get on a plane," he said, "I got to tell you, if I see people who are in Muslim garb and I think, you know, they are identifying themselves first and foremost as Muslims, I get worried. I get nervous."

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An agenda?
NPR chief executive Vivian Schiller held a staff meeting Friday to discuss a recent union agreement and said management was standing by its decision, spokeswoman Dana Davis Rehm in Washington said. Schiller acknowledged that NPR didn't handle the firing perfectly and executives would review their process, Rehm said.

Veronica Richardson, 38, a paralegal from Raleigh, N.C., said the firing revealed that NPR had a "political agenda." She said she would stop listening and donating to her local station, WUNC-FM in Chapel Hill.

"I think it's unfair to fire someone for a comment that was innocuous to begin with. It's how many people feel," said Richardson, who describes herself as a libertarian.

Teresa Kopec, 42, of Spartanburg, S.C., backed the firing, saying, "I thought what he said was kind of offensive. I think it was probably the last straw. He had a pattern of saying things that were not appropriate." But she said his association with conservative Fox News may have been more troubling, because it damaged NPR's reputation for objectivity.

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Fundraising remains strong
At KUNC, an NPR affiliate in Colorado, general manager Neil Best said that Thursday, the start of a pledge drive, was one of the station's best fundraising days ever. Best said some callers who criticized the firing seemed to be reading from a script since they used some of the same words, such as "totalitarian."

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Rehm said several other stations also reported callers may be reading from a script. In other cases, it was clear the callers weren't listeners or supporters, she said.

"When people say, 'I'm never going to watch you again,' that's an indicator," she said, because NPR isn't on TV.

Stations in some big cities such as New York, Washington and Philadelphia, all three of which have been holding pledge drives, said fundraising remained strong even as complaints rolled in. In Denver, Colorado Public Radio President Max Wycisk said the episode could boost fundraising.

"It might actually help, because it reinforces how seriously public radio takes its integrity," Wycisk said.

At least one station wants to distance itself from the firing. In Miami, WLRN general manager John Labonia said he was hearing dozens of complaints from angry citizens and loyal donors. He said one called to cancel a $1,000 pledge. The station's fundraising drive had already ended when the furor erupted.

"We don't want that negative halo of NPR's decision to affect us, so we are making it perfectly clear that we were not part of this decision and we do not agree with it," Labonia said. "It was a short-sighted and irresponsible decision by NPR."

Introducing legislation
Sen. Jim DeMint, R-S.C., said he will introduce legislation to end federal funding for public radio and television.

"Once again, we find the only free speech liberals support is the speech with which they agree," he said in a statement. "With record debt and unemployment, there's simply no reason to force taxpayers to subsidize a liberal programming they disagree with."

In June, Rep. Doug Lamborn, R-Colo., introduced similar legislation in the House. He said the Williams firing will help his bill.

Story: Fox, others defend Williams over Muslim remarks

NPR radio stations are independently owned and operated and, like the nation's public TV stations, receive government funding through the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, which got about $420 million this year from Washington.

As for NPR's headquarters operation, federal grants account for less than 2 percent — or $3.3 million — of its $166 million annual budget. It is funded primarily by its affiliates, corporate sponsors and major donors.

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This isn't the first time public broadcasting has been in the crosshairs of conservative politicians. In 1994, then-House Speaker Newt Gingrich called for an end to all federal funding for public broadcasters.

In a statement, Patricia Harrison, president and CEO of the Corporation for Public Broadcasting and a former co-chair of the Republican National Committee, said federal law gives public broadcasting stations "maximum freedom" from interference in their activities.

NPR's Rehm warned that if Congress cut off funding, "stations across the country would be hurt by that and would have to make up that balance elsewhere. In many places that would be difficult to do."

She said that threats to cut off funding are "inappropriate" but that NPR takes them seriously and is talking with its member stations. "Stations as a whole are not happy this is happening at this time," she said. "They're in a difficult situation.

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Video: NPR firing opens debate on public funding

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    BRIAN WILLIAMS, anchor (Chicago): This was day two of the fracas over Juan Williams , the journalist and author fired yesterday by NPR after saying it makes him uneasy, rather, to see Muslims in religious garb onboard an airplane. He was quickly signed to a bigger contract at Fox News , where he already worked as well. Now, for its decision, NPR is paying a price from some lawmakers and from listeners like you. Our report tonight from NBC 's Andrea Mitchell .

    ANDREA MITCHELL reporting: The furor over National Public Radio 's firing of Juan Williams has reignited the culture wars over spending any tax dollars on public broadcasting .

    Mr. GLENN BECK: It's insanity.

    Mr. JUAN WILLIAMS: I've always thought the right wing was the ones who were inflexible and tolerant -- intolerant, and now I'm coming to realize that the orthodoxy at NPR , if it's representing the left, is just unbelievable.

    MITCHELL: This is what Williams said to Bill O'Reilly Monday about seeing Muslims in traditional garb on planes.

    Mr. WILLIAMS: I think, you know, they're identifying themselves first and foremost as Muslims , I get worried, I get nervous.

    MITCHELL: He went on to say there are good Muslims and it's wrong to generalize, but NPR said Williams had violated standards and values and fired him by phone. That prompted criticism today on one of NPR 's most popular shows.

    Ms. SUSAN PAGE (USA Today): Juan Williams has worked as a -- for NPR for 10 years. You'd think you deserved to be fired face-to-face.

    MITCHELL: NPR 's ombudsman wrote there was an outpouring of e-mails, 8,000, crashing the network's comments site; the overwhelming majority angry and demanding he be rehired. The firing even brought together Whoopi Goldberg ...

    Ms. WHOOPI GOLDBERG: In all of our opinions, it seems, the firing of Juan was a total mistake and sends the wrong message.

    MITCHELL: ...and Sarah Palin , who tweeted, "You're shocked at public outrage over your censorship of Juan ? This is what happens when our Constitution starts shaking her fist." And today, growing threats to cut off federal funds not only for NPR , 2 percent of its budget, but also for public radio stations and public television , roughly 15 percent of their funding.

    Representative DARRELL ISSA (Republican, California): Why is it that we're funding, in a very small way, public broadcasting , rather than having public broadcasting being completely independent?

    MITCHELL: With Republicans now favored to win back at least the House , that is a powerful threat. Andrea Mitchell , NBC News, Washington.


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