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    >>> good evening. we begin tonight with news that could mean a major advance. the taliban 's top military commander has been captured. it was a secret raid, a joint operation carried out by pakistani and american intelligence forces. it happened in karachi in afghanistan. the number two ranked man under the taliban founder and associate of the still-at-large osama bin laden . this news comes as american forces are grinding forward with a big new offensive. we begin our reporting tonight with you are chief foreign correspondent richard engel .

    >> reporter: it's easy to hide in the streets of karachi , home to 18 million. the taliban 's military commander mulla baradar was living openly here, apparently feeling immune to capture. that ended last week in a rare joint cia/pakistani operation. there are no known photographs of baradar, but he directed the war in afghanistan . today u.s. nato troops met on the fourth day of offensive. baradar could provide valuable intelligence.

    >> mulla baradar would provide very valuable information about the scores of other people who work for the taliban movement .

    >> reporter: u.s. and pakistani intelligence have cooperated before, together arresting 9/11 plotters. pakistan has been accused of sheltering the top taliban leaders, offering up just middle men.

    >> the fact they've taken out mullah baradar, so they are going for the real guys rather than the little guys.

    >> reporter: but baradar is unlikely to know the whereabouts of osama bin laden . former pakistan intelligence colonel imman trained baradar with thousands of other fighters in the 1980s . he says the arrest will not defeat the taliban .

    >> reporter: analysts say the operation in karachi deals a psychological blow to the taliban , showing no one is immune to arrest, even in pakistan . the arrest is not, however, expected to have an immediate impact on american troops fighting in afghanistan. today, a u.s. marine was killed by roadside bomb. brian?

    >> richard engel in our london newsroom tonight. richard, thanks.

    >>> in washington, president obama today

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updated 2/17/2010 6:46:11 AM ET 2010-02-17T11:46:11

The Taliban's top military commander has been arrested in a joint CIA-Pakistani operation in Pakistan, officials said.

Mullah Abdul Ghani Baradar, the No. 2 behind Afghan Taliban founder Mullah Mohammad Omar and a close associate of Osama bin Laden, was captured in the southern Pakistani port city of Karachi, two Pakistani intelligence officers and a senior U.S. official said. They spoke on condition of anonymity.

"At the conclusion of detailed identification procedures, it has been confirmed that one of the persons arrested happens to be Mullah Baradar," chief army spokesman Maj. Gen. Athar Abbas said in a written message to reporters.

"The place of arrest and operational details cannot be released due to security reasons."

Baradar is the most senior Afghan Taliban leader arrested since the beginning of the Afghan war in 2001. His arrest is seen as victory against insurgents as U.S. troops push into their heartland in southern Afghanistan .

His capture represents a significant success for the administration of President Barack Obama, which has vowed to kill or seize Taliban and al-Qaida leaders in Afghanistan and Pakistan. It follows the ramping up of CIA missile strikes against militant targets along the border between the two countries that have reportedly killed many midlevel commanders.

"This is a major terrorist who has been at the core of Taliban operations for years. Having him off the battlefield means the near-term disruption of plotting against coalition forces in Afghanistan," a U.S. counterterrorism official told NBC News.

"Since Mullah Omar has been close to him for a long time, it must also be a severe psychological blow to the group's senior ranks, particularly at a time when they're facing stepped up military pressure. But no one should think the Taliban are down and out for good," an official said on condition of anonymity.

'Going about his daily life'
A senior U.S. military official told NBC News that Baradar was picked up "while he was going about his daily life."

"Look at where it took place, in Karachi, it says a lot because it means they don't feel safe in their traditional areas," the source said.

The official confirmed that the arrest was carried out in a joint operation with U.S. and Pakistani intelligence, but would not confirm if Americans were involved in the arrest.

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Pakistan's spy agency has been accused in the past of protecting top Taliban leaders who are believed to be in the country, frustrating Washington. Moving against Baradar could signal that Islamabad increasingly views the Afghan Taliban, or at least some of its members, as fair game.

There was speculation that the arrest could be related to a new push by the United States and its NATO allies to negotiate with moderate Afghan Taliban leaders as a way to end the eight-year war in Afghanistan.

Pakistan has an important role in that process because of its close links with members of the movement, which it supported before the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.

"If Pakistani officials had wanted to arrest him, they could have done it at any time," said Sher Mohammad Akhud Zada, the former governor of Afghanistan's Helmand province and a member of the Afghan parliament. "Why did they arrest him now?"

State Department spokesman Gordon Duguid would not characterize the significance of the capture, saying only that the United States and Pakistan "work closely together" to combat terrorism and he expects that to continue.

The New York Times, which first reported the arrest on its Web site late Monday , cited sources as saying that Pakistan was leading the interrogation of Baradar, but that Americans were also involved.

Hiding place
Baradar heads the Taliban's military council and was elevated in the body after the 2006 death of military chief Mullah Akhtar Mohammed Usmani. He is known to coordinate the movement's military operations throughout the south and southwest of Afghanistan. His area of direct responsibility stretches over Kandahar, Helmand, Nimroz, Zabul and Uruzgan provinces.

According to Interpol, Baradar was the deputy defense minister in the Taliban regime that ruled Afghanistan until it was ousted in the 2001 U.S.-led invasion.

Karachi is Pakistan's largest city and has been increasingly cited as a possible hiding place for top Afghan Taliban commanders in recent months. It has a large population of Pashtuns, the ethnic group that makes up the Taliban, but it is on the Arabian Sea and far from the Afghan border.

A Taliban spokesman in Afghanistan told The Associated Press that Baradar was still free, though he did not provide any evidence.

"We totally deny this rumor. He has not been arrested," Zabiullah Mujahid told the AP by telephone. He said the report was Western propaganda aimed at undercutting the Taliban fighting against an offensive in the southern Afghan town of Marjah, a Taliban haven.

"The Taliban are having success with our jihad. It is to try to demoralize the Taliban who are on jihad in Marjah and all of Afghanistan," he said.

Assault on Taliban town
Word of Baradar's capture came as U.S. Marine and Afghan units pressed deeper into Marjah, facing sporadic rocket and mortar fire as they moved through suspected insurgent neighborhoods in the NATO offensive to reclaim the town.

U.S.-based global intelligence firm Stratfor said the reported arrest was a "major development," but cautioned it may not have a significant impact on the battlefield in Afghanistan.

"It is unlikely that a single individual would be the umbilical cord between the leadership council and the military commanders in the field, particularly a guerrilla force such as the Taliban," it said in an analysis soon after news broke of the arrest.

Talks with U.S.?
Sen. John Kerry, chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, said Tuesday during a visit to Islamabad that the arrest was evidence of greater cooperation between the United States and Pakistan.

"I think that is really a signal that wherever people go, wherever they are, the government of Pakistan is determined to continue to ferret out those people who engage in violent extremist acts against the people of Pakistan," Kerry told CBS' "The Early Show" from Islamabad.

In a written interview with Newsweek last year, Baradar said the group did not see the point in reconciliation talks with the Afghan government or Washington.

"Our basic problem with the Americans is that they have attacked our country," Baradar said. "They are offering talks, hoping that the mujahedeen surrender before them. We see no benefit for the country and Islam in such kind of talks."

But Taliban expert Michael Semple said Baradar was known to be a "pragmatist" who could be prepared to enter into some kind of talks with the United States.

"If he could get guarantees, he would be willing to negotiate," said Semple, who was expelled from Afghanistan in 2007 by President Hamid Karzai for negotiating with midlevel Taliban commanders when he worked for the European Union.

Delayed report
After denying for years that Afghan Taliban were based in the country, the Pakistani government and security agencies had little reason to publicize the arrest of Baradar.

Pakistani Interior Minister Rehman Malik said only that authorities had arrested a "number of people who are running away from Afghanistan and coming to Pakistan" but would not confirm the arrest.

The New York Times said it learned of the operation against Baradar last Thursday but delayed reporting it at the request of White House officials who argued that publicizing it would end a valuable intelligence-gathering effort by making Baradar's associates aware of his capture. The newspaper said it decided to publish the news after White House officials acknowledged Baradar's capture was becoming widely known in the region.

NBC News, msnbc.com staff, Reuters and The Associated Press contributed to this report.

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