Hoda Kotb and Jenna Bush Hager talk about Miss America changes

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Miss America is now a “competition” instead of a pageant and will no longer include a swimsuit segment, and TODAY’s Hoda Kotb and Jenna Bush Hager aren’t sure what to think about it. “I think it’s just a sign of the times,” Jenna says. “I wonder what will happen to the ratings,” Hoda muses.