TODAY | June 26, 2013
>>> welcome back to today on this wednesday june 26th , 2013 . inside studio 1 -a i'm natalie morales with al roker and carson daly helping us out while willie is on a nice beach in hawaii.
>> he wrote me a nice e-mail last night. a much deserved vacation. willie, brother.
>> hats off to you.
>> this is your seat. i'll keep it warm for you.
>> everybody is talking about it. the paula deen interview. we have two sound bites we put together for you. take a look first.
>> do you have any doubt in your mind that african americans are offended by the "n" word?
>> i don't know, matt. i have asked myself that so many times because it's very distressing for me to go into my kitchen and i hear what these young people are calling each other. it's very, very distressing.
>> you never joined in on that language?
>> no. absolutely not. and if you never committed a sin, please pick up that rock, pick up that boulder and hit me as hard as you can.
>> i think it left a lot of people talking and thinking and the question is whether or not it really changed anyone's mind.
>> and right after the interview i said whatever you felt going in, i think you felt coming out of it.
>> we saw that sort of data. we put up a facebook poll on our facebook page and the results of that were 82% of you said going into the interview that you didn't buy her apology.
>> or if they supported her they still support her as well.
>> nothing changed in lieu of the interview.
>> it was very difficult is look, the use of the "n" word is a hot button issue because it's used in rap. so let's take that one off the table. what is more disturbing to people was surrounding the wedding.
>> and the allegations that she was looking for a plantation wedding for her brother.
>> and that's i think what is more concerning to people. and i don't know that that was really addressed.
>> and a couple of inconsistenci inconsistencies. she said she only used it once but in her deposition she said she used it repeatedly but he asked her twice. it was pretty split. you have two groups of people. you have probably her core, a little more of the christian south, there's a lot of ye who cast the first stone 30 years ago.
>> yeah. but that is what she said.
>> here's one of the pro tweets. they need to leave paula alone. we are humans. we are not perfect. we all make mistakes. but then kelsey wrote i'm sorry but there's no way a person uses that word once in their life. either it's in your vocabulary or it's not.
>> and it's late for some people. made a lot of comments about if this had come on friday when she was supposed to be here. matt brought it up in the beginning of the interview, let's keep this centered around business. this say multimillion dollars interview you're doing. two companies dropped you since you were a no show on the today show on monday. maybe it was a little too little or a little too late.
>> the good news, if there is any is this the perhaps a teachable moment. talk about race in a real world setting and how do we address this? and the fact is even though it's been 40 years, 50 or since the civil rights movement that we still have a long way to go in this country.
>> and she did bring up that point which is so true, too often black people use that word to describe themselves and --
>> let's not -- black people -- it's a certain segment of the audience but there's a very large segment --
>> no, please don't take that that way --
>> and a large segment of the white audience don't use it and grew up at that time in the south. so, i just want to -- because we throw that around a lot and i think it needs clarification. she got emotional clearly and brought up that point. it's a sad day. it's a sad day that unfortunately we have to have the teachable moment around.
>> and people brought up on twitter while watching the interview this morning when you talk about how emotional it was and that was was she actually crying. because people could hear the emotion and never actually saw physical tears.
>> i'm not going to hold that against somebody. that happens. we have had all that happen and the emotion and without divulging any confidences, that did come after the camera was off and there was a lot of --
>> do you think she was sincere this morning? or did you buy the apology?
>> well, here's the thing, did she really apologize?
>> i didn't hear the word sorry either?
>> that youtube apology she put out which were bizarre because one seemed an attempt to be more genuine than the previous one. there was a lot of i'm sorries. this morning there wasn't.
>> there's a lot of pressure and we can pick it apart and all of that but this is going to be something that's going to continue.
>> and we'll talk more coming up. two people are going to break it down with us and tell us what they think and why other people can have similar -- have committed similar or other mistakes in life.
>> and why say you're sorry in today's culture for a lot on the line is a tough thing to do.
>> number two, marissa myer. you talk about a lightning rod . yahoo ceo was a subject of an awkward moment. she was on the panel and answered questions from the audience. take a look.
>> this is my personal opinion. first is, i have 2,000 shares of yahoo, i'm greek and i'm a dirty old man and you look attractive. now let's go to the next topic.
>> okay. and he was trying to get valuable information out of her with that.
>> what was the problem with that? i mean it was stupid clearly.
>> would he say that to one of the male members? would male ceos have to deal with that.
>> if they were attractive.
>> every woman wants to be considered attractive. whether ceo or not.
>> for guys to say it like a 2.0 conference, you look attractive isn't exactly a lightning rod . it's pretty benign.
>> he admits to being a greek dirty old man.
>> it was a dumb thing to say and you notice the reaction of the audience was this nervous like that's uncomfortable.
>> and then he proceeds to ask about dividends.
>> would you have been offended if you were marissa.
>> we all recall the comments that president obama made recently about the attorney general in california. and i think -- and he later apologized and said i'm sorry for saying you're an attractive woman. and i don't think you need to apologize for saying a woman is attractive but i do think -- it's happened to me. if you're an accomplished person and you have achieved a lot in your life, you want to be taken seriously and for who you are and what you've accomplished but not what you look like. that said --
>> but you're powerful and attractive no one is never allowed to say you're attractive.
>> it's a generational thing too. it's a generational thing where i think there was a time when people could say things like that.
>> and he could say you're a hot babe.
>> i'm sure a lot of greek people are saying thanks for that. thanks so much for linking those two. appreciate it.
>> in fact, but when she took over, shares were about $15.34 and now just under 25.
>> he added the caveat that not only are you attractive but you're very successful.
>> and he has 2,000 shares apparently.
>> it's trading at 24.95 this morning.
>> he can buy a lot of viagra with that.
>> what's that al? what's that dirty old al?
>> i just figured --
>> you cash the first dividends.
>> i'm not that old. i resent the old part.
>>> halle berry testified on tuesday in favor of the legislation that would limit paparazzi to photograph the kids of celebrities. her daughter wasn't want to go to school because of the dozens of pap rarazzi and take pictures.
>> we saw this earlier how emotional she was when testifying. a lot of people can certainly understand you want to protect your children, whether you're a public figure or not and can you imagine anybody taking pictures of your children.
>> sure. it happens to me and it drives me crazy every time. i liked what halle said in court. i'm here as a mom. this has gone too far. taking pictures of celebrities kids does not fall under the journalism, news gathering operation. this scares young kids. you can shoot me all you want. i'm an adult. i can handle it. but leave kids alone. she made a good point.
>> here's the question though, some people buy the magazines with the pictures on it. when you're buying those magazines are you supporting that.
>> you are.
>> you are. and people talk out of both sides of their mouth. we shouldn't do this but why are you buying the magazines.
>> you're supporting it.
>> well we have more than that in the magazine.
>> they don't care at the end of the day when they're in the check out and in their lives, many americans lives aren't like some of the celebrities and they're living vicariously through them but every time you make the purchase of an u.s. weekly you're feeding the system.
>> by the way, think about if it were your children being harassed by the photographers.
>> they come out of bushes and buildings. it could be terrifying.