TODAY | June 25, 2013
>> director of counterterrorism and the former deputy director of national security at the fbi. it's good to see you. good morning.
>> good morning.
>> i know guys with your resume hate when people like me do this, but it sounds like a movie. it sounds like a spy movie complete with an international fugitive and cat and mouse game and at the end of those movies the cia gets their man. do you think the cia actually knows exactly where edward snowden is.
>> i doubt it. we'll have a resolution much more boring than what we're having right now. this fellow has to find a place to stay. he can't keep jumping airport to airport. he ends up in ecuador, they'll either turn him over or he'll realize he misses his family and he'll never see his girlfriend again. he's in for a tough life.
>> but i think you're missing my question. in the movies the cia has all kind of tools at it's disposal, there's satellite imagines and bugs and informants on the ground to help pinpoint the suspect. are they using tools like that right now to find edward snowden .
>> sure, everybody across the u.s. government is and if they don't know where he is now, they'll know soon. the question is, what do you do when you locate the guy? you're not sending a s.w.a.t. team into russia. my guess is putin will say thanks very much but no way.
>> let me ask your take on something the l.a. times had. an interview with a former general quoted as saying this, quote, this interesting fish has swum into our nets of his own accord and it would be unthinkable of our special services to miss the rare chance to talk to a u.s. defector associated with the cia . so at the very least would you say that the russian intelligence agency has interviewed mr. snowden . at the worst, have they seen what's on his computers?
>> i think both are most likely. if i were sitting in the chair in washington d.c. and somebody like this came into the airport, two things are going to happen. you're telling me we're not going to look at his cell phone and laptop and talk to him. i'm saying why are you here? what do you want to do? is there something you want to tell us. the likelihood that there's been no conversation or they haven't downloaded stuff is 0.
>> would that apply to the chinese as well before he left hong kong ? might that have been part of the price of a ticket out of that country? so see what was on the laptops.
>> absolutely. but i want to pretend like i'm the cia guy but let's not make this into black and white . we would have done the same thing in america i believe.
>> all right. thank you for your time this morning.