Kathie Lee: Octuplet mom oozes ‘desperation’

>>> also on the show today, do you guys remember nadya suleman, the octomom. she has a total of 14 kids.

>> she had six and then she had the eight. what's that make?

>> takes a lot of math, what that is. she came on to discuss her family, they're having problems with money.

>> she's recently gone on public assistance .

>> she was posing not nude but kind of. anyway, let's listen to her interview.

>> it's 100% about my children. they deserve everything. they deserve the best and it's temporary.

>> you posed topless for this women's magazine.

>> i didn't see it until just --

>> in britain. you got $8,000 for it.

>> $10,000 but 20% goes --

>> you ended up with $8,000 for it. it raises the question, what else would you be willing to do to make money? you had said you will never touch another person.

>> i won't touch another human flesh. the only flesh i was touching was my own.

>> pornography is also --

>> $100 million? nothing. i would never, never accept anything.

>> what kind of other offers are you receiving?

>> i will not loosen the grip of my deeply indoctrinated morals and values.

>> i ran into her in the stairwell. i said excuse me. i knew that it was her. she's very frail in person. tiny little thing. she didn't even look up and she was -- so i didn't actually have a chance to say hello to her or anything. but i sensed first of all her voice. she was very nervous. you could tell that. there's this desperation you can sense. lot of jokes and everything. i'll make a joke about myself which is this -- i don't know anybody that wants to see somebody's breasts after 14 children. i mean i've had two and you don't want to see mine. you know what i mean ? so i just -- there's a sadness about it. there's a heartbreak about it that is -- and i don't know. i don't think she ever wanted to go on assistance but now she has to and you got let your pride go, your kids have to eat.

>> she did that reality show . doing this thing called dial-a-celebrity --

>> dial-a-star.

>> you pay per minute just to talk to the person. i know she's trying to raise money for all those kids and i know she's got a lose to rate but she said she was getting thousands upon thousands of death threats. i mean that was weird.

>> yeah.

>> i don't know what the truth is.

>> it probably seems like it -- i've had a couple. it seems like thousands when it's you. you know, that's the thing. when you're at the center of that storm, that's all you can see. other people go, yeah, i saw nadya suleman and they go on with their day. the hardest thing to do