TODAY   |  November 02, 2011

Don’t let your age define your destiny

Psychology Today’s Debra Shigley and More magazine’s Susan Swimmer discuss how you can reinvent your age by becoming a young CEO, having kids when you’re older and changing your career even after you retire.

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>>> it's time for "today's woman." if you've been threatening to change your life but have be afraid to do it now might be your chance.

>> we're talking about reinvention. it's never too late to change the rules. debra shiply and susan schwmimme rerks. we love the topic. it used to be an old-school formula. you went to work. then you got married young. you had kids. you retired at 65. boom, boom, boom. that's how life laid out. the game's changed, hasn't it?

>> absolutely. i looked at three categories which were young ceos, people having newborns when they were middle-aged and people who start second careers after retirement. people are scrambling the traditional categories.

>> is it really reinvention or the actual evolution of an individual?

>> it's a good point. i do think it's reinvention. i think we all make choices throughout our lives that i hope are the best at that time. but we at "more" magazine say all the time, it's not an age. it's a life stage. at different times in your life you want different things.

>> that's true.

>> what's nice in today's economy and today's world you can make different choices. you don't have to be locked in.

>> people are afraid. i think once you've done a certain thing and you know how to do it very, very well, stepping out of your comfort zone , especially in your 40s, 50s, 60s and beyond --

>> like your mom's about to.

>> yeah.

>> i think women are better at it. women are natural born evolutionists. do you agree?

>> i think so, too. in particular when it comes to motherhood. 40 is the new 20 when it comes to having babies. between 2007 and 2009 more woman over 40 gave birth for the first time as opposed to women in their 20s went down. it's a huge trend.

>> it used to be a thing. whn you saw an older mother, older father, you kind of got the look, like, are those the parents or the grandparents? people didn't know. now that's not happening as much.

>> they still think that about me and frank.

>> there is still a bit of a stigma with women. they said they do experience it. a, they have a sense of humor. b, you have to think these are people who they really want a child. not to mention the fact people who have kids later tend to be more financially stable, many mature.

>> these are women who have a career. they put off the motherhood thing.

>> if you want to make a change in your life at any time just be smart about it.

>> how? does that mean make a plan?

>> yes. think about what you really want and what you really need in your life. do you need health benefits ? do you need flexibility in a schedule? can you relocate? think about it. make a plan. do your research.

>> someone was saying, there was a woman who wanted to go off and do her own thing. she needed health insurance and stuff. someone said take 10% of your day and dedicate it to your new idea. keep your health insurance . take 10% of your money. dedicate it to your new idea. have a little bank you start forming for the new idea.

>> maybe stay in the job that you have. make the plan for a change. when you're ready, you can do it. you make the move. i also think at some point you've got to trust your gut and you've got to go for it.

>> yeah.

>> most people are terrified of it.

>> that's why i say --

>> i'm more terrified of being bored.

>> i agree with you. although, i don't know. i feel like today with women there's very much a new or neverness sensibility.

>> i think age -- it's really just a starting point. i spoke to a woman who was 40 when she became a full-time dancer. that's usually when people hang up their shoes. you have to have an attitude that my age is a starting point. seize the day . look at it as an opportunity to move forward with a new life and new adventure that you want.

>> we're healthier longer. we're in better shape longer. maybe it's time to try something. but do your research. if you front load it with information and research, it will make you feel more comfortable to make the change.

>> all right.