>>>
mitt romney
isn't the only person making promises of the changes to
health care reform
is he's elected president. eight governors are not going to participate in
medicaid
's expansion. the
supreme court
says the states can opt out of while another seven governors from florida,
south carolina
, and my adopted
state of louisiana
flat out said no to
medicaid
expansion. while the governors are taking what many see as a political stance before the affordable
care act
, it's other constituents that could be left out of access to health gary. eleanor cliff,
michael dyson
, let's listen to my governor,
bobby jindal
, on "meet the press" last week saying, no, we are not going to expand
medicaid
.
>>
every governor's got two critical decisions to make. one is do we set up the exchanges and do we expand
medicaid
? in louisiana we are not doing either of those. we will want
mitt romney
to repeal obamacare.
>>
louisiana has one of the highest poverty numbers in the nation and where the economy could be better because of increasing
health care
. we should shot do that just like we should not take the stimulus money in order to build light rails so if there was another hurricane like there used to be decently, people could get out of town. it is making he nuts. how is it possible that a governor of a
state
can stand there, sit there on "meet the press" and say we are not taking federal money to provide
health care
for our citizens?
>>
what you see there, i don't take these governors seriously right now. this is politics. we can win this fight in the states. you go to the states and talk about a teacher, the jobs that were lost last segment. the teachers, public schoolteacher can't get a job, single and doesn't have kids, we don't care about them if they are sick.
>>
we don't. we decided we don't care about teachers, right? the teachers are the enemy of students, particularly in unions, so we should break the unions so they don't have
health care
provided on the job. and if they are making poverty wages because they don't have the unions, they can't get
health care
.
>>
look, there's a bunch of different issues here. i'm a bit of a left federalist, i want to have the fights in the
state
. i want to be talking about financial reform in the
state
. i think we are going to get better usury laws in the states. if you talk to the population and say, we are having this technical conversation at the national level. i want to have a moral conversation at the
state
level.
>>
how do you regulate however the kind of explosive tendency toward
states rights
that end up undermining
poor people
, women and african-americans and other minorities. how do you balance it out? historically, you are skeptical about that.
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>> i think there's an interesting -- they are
behaving badly
.
>>
right.
>>
i'm not yet talking about like breaking up into the
state
levels, but i will say on the dot frank fight, the biggest thing the banks wanted is to make sure banks didn't have rights to actually do any
state
level regulation. the
state
attorney's general is where there's
popular power
. i think the left should be using a lot more energies. i will go back historically to do that. the fugitive
state
act is actually a slave right act. the other side says, you
free states
no longer get to have the right to allow people to be on
free soil
. we are going to intervene and take people pushed into slavery back. in that case you want
state rights
because you want free slaves to protect. the marge e equality is when you want the states. you can use it for good, but was do care about folks at the local level.
>>
the
marriage equality
had a heck of a pr machine behind it with a bunch of dough. i don't think back in the day in terms of the slaves returning home, i think of their descendants with no protection.
>>
when i listen to the governors, i think of the governors who stood in the schoolhouse door on the steps in the '60s. it was
massive resistance
and it ended. first of all, in the affordable
care act
. if the
state
refuses to set up an exchange, the governor does it for them.
bobby jindal
can't get away with that. on the
medicaid
money, it is
free money
for two years and then it is 90%. the hospitals in his
state
do not want to provide free care to people and not get paid for it, so he'll get pressure inside the
state
.
>>
the question is to belief in the power of the lobby. go powerful lobbyists on the
health care
machine because you guys want your money. i hear you, but the very fact he says clearly, look, this is your point about keystone, dan,
president obama
is going to
green light
it after
2012
as if there is going to be a president
mitt romney
.
bobby jindal
is going to set it up with massive retake tans.
>>
the country wants you to wait until it is -- you can bet every democrat is putting a statute in place for the affordable
care act
. it will be hard to repeal.
>>
what about when they say they are going to send you in for this and that.
>>
it is
voir dire
hard to get elected if you say no to
free money
.
>>
bobby jindal
is determined to -- you say tax and i say penalty. it's understanding the difference. that's next in a tax. is it a penalty? what is it? let's
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