>>>
let's begin with rielle hunter, former mistress of
john edwards
. she is telling her side of the story to "
gq
."
lisa myers
has more. good morning to you.
>>
good morning, matt. almost after four years of silence, rielle hunter has a great deal to say about the man she calls
johnny
and about
elizabeth edwards
. in fact, she claims that most of
john edwards
' mistakes were because he feared the
wrath
of
elizabeth
. this is rielle hunter today. posing for "
gq
" magazines, at times provocative photo spread with children's toys and with her and
john edwards
' daughter, 2-year-old frances quinn, telling the magazine i love
johnny
and i love my daughter more than anything in the world. she says
john edwards
was involved with other women outside his marriage before her, but their relationship, a special connection. i never hit on
johnny
, she says. i'm not a predator. i'm not a gold digger. i'm not the stalker. she adds that edwards told her the first night,
falling in love
with you could really expletive up my plans for becoming president. hunter says she bought
john edwards
a secret black
cell phone
that looked exactly like his campaign phone. so, he could call her without drawing attention. a suspicious
elizabeth
found this phone and called the last number dialed. and i answered the phone and said, hey, baby. and click. she says
elizabeth
then confronted her husband and he confessed.
>>
i only knew about a single night, a single moment of weakness.
>>
but hunter says
john edwards
never told his wife it was a one-
night stand
. who has a
cell phone
for a one-
night stand
? hunter says she did not think
john edwards
should be running for president and was shocked when he decided to stay in the race after
elizabeth
's
breast cancer
returned.
>>
the campaign goes on. the campaign goes on strongly.
>>
i really viewed it as reckless. and what's interesting is that she wanted to stay in. that's the key. he wanted to get out. and she wanted to stay in. in fact, while claiming to have compassion for
elizabeth
, hunter charges that she emasculated her husband. most of his mistakes or errors in judgment were because of his fear of the
wrath
of
elizabeth
. he's allowed himself to be pushed into a lot of things that he wouldn't normally do because of
elizabeth
's
story line
, the
wrath
of
elizabeth
is a mighty
wrath
. not surprisingly, hunter vigorously disputes many of the claims of this man, edwards' former aide,
andrew young
. they're doing battle over who owns that infamous
sex tape
with hunter with
john edwards
. john and
elizabeth edwards
separated a couple of months ago. hunter deflected questions about whether she now hopes for a
fairy tale
ending. asked to describe her current relationship with
john edwards
, hunter replied, private. matt?
>>
lisa myers
.
lisa
, thank you as always.
lisa
depalo interviewed hunter for the issue of "
gq
."
>>
morning, matt.
>>
let me start with
andrew young
. you actually worked for
andrew young
as a writer for a short period of time.
>>
actually, not really. he approached me to write his book but never hired me.
>>
did you ever participate in the process at all?
>>
he never hired me.
>>
you had nothing to do with that?
>>
no, but i'm glad he put this out there because i'm bound by confidentiality.
>>
so, you didn't share anything with both sides in this?
>>
no.
>>
how does
johnny
, as she refers to him, rielle refers to
john edwards
, feels about her doing this interview?
>>
she said he was fine with it, that he thought she should talk if she wanted to and she also claims that he never told her not to talk to the press.
>>
why do you think she is sharing the story? she goes out of her way to say, look, i'm not getting paid for this. i didn't cash in on this, as some other people may have done. so, why is she talking now?
>>
i think, you know, it's been several years of people defining her. and what was interesting to me when we first started talking was rielle really wanted to put the whole story out there. she wanted an expansive interview. she kept saying she wanted her words to be her words, unspun, unfiltered. i think she cared very much about putting her truth out there.
>>
after talking to her,
lisa
, do you get the sense she truly grasps what this incident, whether it's ongoing or not, has meant to the lives of so many people?
>>
yes, but i think she is very forgiving of him in many ways. she believes that he was traumatized and that was why he handled things a certain way.
>>
traumatized by?
>>
by the situation he was in, that suddenly his life had been, you know, exposed, the reality of his life had been exposed.
>>
right.
>>
but it's interesting, because she talks about her
unconditional love
for him.
>>
she also talks about the relationship in the present.
>>
yeah. always.
>>
it's not like that relationship that occurred. it's the relationship that is, which raises the question, what is the relationship right now?
>>
i think the short answer is they're together, but i think it depends on how you define together. i don't know that it's a conventional together. but she talks about the fact that she loves him very much. they love each other very much.
>>
she says i do know that i love him and love is
till death do us part
. though when you ask her if there is going to be a
fairy tale
ending, be the response is, i want whatever life brings me.
>>
right, right. when i asked her, do you think you'll live happily ever after with him, she said i don't know. i don't think she does know.
>>
you mention this
unconditional love
that she seems to have for him. when you pressed her, and you did, and said but he lied to a lot of people.
>>
right.
>>
do you view him as a liar? how did she respond to that?
>>
she said he doesn't lie to me. she believes that he has never lied to her and never will.
>>
and even you said, but a lot of people in this country think he's one of the most untruthful people he is.
>>
correct.
>>
it didn't seem to faze her or her feelings to him.
>>
no. she said i know him and he doesn't lie to me.
>>
on the side of
elizabeth edwards
, this will get people pretty upset. she says the
wrath
of
elizabeth
is a mighty
wrath
. does she go on to say boy, i deserve it? i deserve a portion of that
wrath
?
>>
no. one thing that's interesting about her, she didn't whitewash anything. what she said about
elizabeth
, that's what she believes. she had ample opportunity to spin that a little differently, but no, she is unapologetic.
>>
is there some remorse at all about the fact that this incident occurred during an enormously trying time in
elizabeth
's life as well, with her health concerns?
>>
what she said was that infidelity was something that she had a lot of judgment about before this happened and that she fell madly in love with him and that overrode any of those feel i feelings she had.
>>
she talks about a toxic relationship, the marriage between john and
elizabeth
.
>>
right, and he's not the first married man that, you know, talked about his wife on the first night.
>>
john, she admits, is helping her financially.
>>
yes.
>>
we know that. that's been reported.
>>
it has been.
>>
that's for
child support
. she's going to have to work at some point.
>>
right.
>>
does she give you any indication what she plans on doing, what she would like to do?
>>
she loves documentaries. that's how this whole -- the videographer thing happened. she's been a writer, an actress. i think she could do a lot of different things. she has not made a decision about that, though.
>>
you met quinn.
>>
i did.
>>
the 2-year-old daughter. they've been living a kind of circus existence behind the cloak with paparazzi. is there anything normal about their lives right now?
>>
it was the strangest thing to be interview iing her with a tripod and a lens in the window, where you would constantly be closing the drapes, closing the shutters. i don't know how she lives that way and it's nonstop.
>>
is it possible by giving this interview she hopes to --
>>
yes.
>>
-- put a pin in the balloon and let some of the hot air out so her life can go back to normal?
>>
absolutely. i think she very much wants to get on with her life and wants -- that's one of the reasons she wanted to answer every question. there were no conditions or nothing off limits. and i think that's part of the reason why. now, will "the
national enquirer
" say thank you, rielle, now we're going to leave? probably not. but i think that is her wish.
>>
fascinating interview.
lisa
depaulo, thank you for sharing it with us.
>>
thank you.
>>
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