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    >> mr. gleason.

    >> please, call me pete.

    >> all right. you are making as many headlines as your client is. you have taken the case pro bono but you didn't know her at all. you have offered your home as collateral for her bail and offered to have her family move into your apartment while she faces house arrest . why have you done these things?

    >> let me give you background. first of all, growing up i had three idols, a civil rights attorney i had the privilege of meeting and working with, elvis presley and muhammed ali . each was known for accomplishing as much as they were willing to risk. what i despise most is hypocrisy. the village voice put themselves on my radar when i ran for city council in 2009 .

    >> you ended up suing them, i think.

    >> i didn't sue the village voice . what happened was they got ahold of personal fdny records of mine. i'll get to it.

    >> it's important because the moves you're making are unorthodox. one defense said it's ridiculous. there is something going on we don't know. a former prosecutor said, for him to do this pro bono for somebody he knows only through a friend is bizarre. what's going on?

    >> it deals with hypocrisy and the people that i have idolized as a child who also despised hypocrisy. when you have the village voice news stands on public property promoting prostitution that's hypocrisy. go after the media outlets promoting prostitution and instead of going after individuals. we can solve the problem.

    >> i apologize for the blunt nature of this question. are you qualified to defend this woman? you have never handled a felony criminal case .

    >> i'm an attorney licensed to practice law in the state of new york which allows me to walk into any courtroom in the state.

    >> your client is called the millionaire madam. prosecutors say her prostitution ring brought in millions of dollars. you say she doesn't have two nickels to rub together. in fact, you say she was trying to create a matchmaking website. this is a five-year investigation.

    >> you bring up a good point. a five-year investigation. it took the prosecutors five years to have this woman arrested? if she's been doing this for five years shouldn't you arrest somebody as soon as you find them doing something?

    >> investigations often go on for a long period of time even though they think criminal acts are being committed.

    >> and end up in one simple charge? i don't think so. i'm having a difficult time wrapping my head around this. that's why i'm very engaged in this case.

    >> anna gristina is on rikers island on a $2 million bond. does she have anything to cut a deal? names, phone numbers , a black book of some kind she could offer up to get her a little bit better treatment?

    >> i have never asked her if there is a so-called black book .

    >> as her attorney, why wouldn't you want to know that?

    >> it's quite irrelevant. it's -- she is innocent in the eyes of the law as we sit here.

    >> as someone who will be asked to defend her wouldn't you ask, was there prostitution going on, did some of the matchmaking services include providing sex for clients and are there names and numbers for the clients?

    >> at the appropriate time. when i was first brought on there was an ominous cloud over her head that she was peddling underaged girls. i said two things point blank. if there is any semblance of truth to that, i want no part of this case. two, with your permission, i will go out into the world and tell the press that if there was any indication of under aged girls, i would not be involved in this case. what that would do is if there was any truth to that it would be shared with me hopefully by the prosecution. i would walk away from the case.

    >> $2 million bail. you're asking the court to reduce that. you are asking for her to serve house arrest in your apartment and putting up your apartment for collateral. she has a british passport , an apartment in montreal. the prosecution said she's a flight risk. if she flees, you're in trouble.

    >> the prosecution has her passport. she does not have her passport, number one. number two, she's the most recognized face in the world perhaps based on the coverage here. i don't think she's fleeing anywhere. in order to give her fair representation, give her a fair trial , as you correctly point out she needs to get out of rikers island .

    >> i appreciate your time. thank

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updated 3/15/2012 9:46:31 AM ET 2012-03-15T13:46:31

Updated 3/15, 12:05 p.m. ET: Anna Gristina has been denied a lower bail, per a Manhattan judge who cited a flight risk. Gristina also changed lawyers, dropping Peter Gleason, the attorney who had offered to have Gristina and her family move in with him, and hiring Gary Greenwald, according to NBC New York.

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Original story: The defense attorney who has drawn criticism for offering his own home as a venue for house arrest for his client — a suburban soccer mom accused of running a high-end Manhattan prostitution ring — claimed Thursday that she is being “railroaded” and said he knows of no black book of alleged clients that might allow her to cut a plea deal.

Peter Gleason is willing to put his own $2.5 million Manhattan loft up as collateral for Anna Gristina’s $2 million bail, and is requesting that Gristina be allowed to serve house arrest under electronic monitoring at his posh home, with her family also moving in. Three weeks after being arrested, Gristina, 44, is currently in prison at Riker’s Island as she awaits her trial.

Gristina has not produced any sort of smoking gun, such as a black book with names and addresses of alleged prostitution clients, that might allow her to cut a plea deal. Gleason doesn’t know if she has one.

Story: NYC ponders: Suburban mom or high-rolling madam?

“I’ve never asked her if there’s a so-called black book,’’ Gleason said. “It’s irrelevant. She is innocent in the eyes of the law as we sit here.’’

Gleason, who has taken the case pro bono, has drawn criticism from others in his profession for the bizarre nature of his request, which has been called “unethical’’ by the prosecution. A judge will rule on Thursday regarding his unusual request for Gristina, who is charged with running a high-end prostitution ring that generated millions over the course of 15 years catering to wealthy clientele.

Video: Will alleged madam serve house arrest in posh pad? (on this page)

“In order to give her fair representation, a fair trial, she needs to … get out of that terrible place, Rikers Island,’’ Gleason told Matt Lauer Thursday.

To reporters, he said: “I really, honestly, truly in my heart feel she is being railroaded by the legal system. I feel so comfortable giving them access to my place. I want them to move in with me.’’

Madam or matchmaker?
Gristina has pleaded not guilty along with her co-defendant, Jaynie Baker, 30, who turned herself in on Tuesday and was released on $100,000 bond after being charged with promoting prostitution in the third degree. Baker’s attorney would not comment on any connection to Gristina and why his client’s bail was so much lower, simply saying that Baker worked as a legitimate matchmaker.

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Jaynie Baker, Anna Gristina’s co-defendant, has been released on $100,000 bail.

Gristina’s defense team has presented a similar argument, saying that she simply was trying to create a matchmaking website and is far from a wealthy madam.

“It took the prosecutors five years to have her arrested?’’ Gleason told Lauer. “If she’s been doing this for five years, shouldn’t you arrest somebody as soon as you find them doing something? I’m having a difficult time wrapping my head around this. That’s why I am very engaged in this case.’’

Gleason’s initial concern was the rumor that Gristina may have used underage girls in her service.

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Accused madam Anna Gristina is not a flight risk, her lawyer asserted.

“When I was first brought on, there was this ominous cloud over her head that she was peddling underage girls,’’ he said. “I said, ‘If there’s any semblance of truth to that, I want no part of this case.’ ’’

Flight risk?
The Scottish-born Gristina has a British passport and an apartment in Montreal. The prosecution considers her a flight risk if she is allowed to go live in Gleason’s home because a potential wealthy client could help her escape, or she could have money hidden away to facilitate her flight. Gleason noted that the prosecution is currently in possession of Gristina’s passport.

“She’s the most recognized face, perhaps, in the world today, based on the coverage here,’’ Gleason said. “I don’t think she’s fleeing anywhere.’’

Video: Alleged madam’s lawyer ‘didn’t ask’ about black book (on this page)

Gleason is a former police officer who unsuccessfully ran for city council in 2009. He has never handled a felony criminal case before, and Lauer questioned him on his qualifications to defend Gristina.

“I’m an attorney licensed to practice law in the state of New York, which allows me to walk into any courtroom in this state,’’ Gleason said.

Gleason noted his boyhood admiration for Elvis Presley, Muhammad Ali and civil rights lawyer William Kunstler and what he described as their fights against the hypocrisy of the system.

He believes that similar hypocrisy has reared its head in this case.

“It deals with hypocrisy, and it deals with the people I idolized as a child who also despised hypocrisy,’’ Gleason said.

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