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    SAVANNAH GUTHRIE, co-host: Growing up the daughter of Martha Stewart wasn't all domestic bliss, so says her daughter Alexis Stewart . She and her former radio host partner Jennifer Koppelman Hutt are out now with their new "unself-help book," as they call it.

    It is called "Whateverland: Learning to Live Here ". And they have stuck around to answer your questions. Good morning again to both of you ladies.

    Ms. ALEXIS STEWART: Hi .

    Ms. JENNIFER KOPPELMAN HUTT: Morning.

    GUTHRIE: Well, let's talk about it. We went over, last hour, some of the quotes that are -- gotten some attention. Are you surprised that people are reading this book or reading about this book and have the perception that you're complaining about your childhood, that it's a tell-all about your mom, Martha ?

    Ms. STEWART: But they -- that's what people want to believe because she is incredibly talented.

    GUTHRIE: Well, haven't you kind of given them a little ammo here?

    Ms. STEWART: I think taken out of context, sure. I had a friend growing up -- a friend who's my age, who grew up playing "Topsy" on Saturdays, and that was going -- and with his dad to the morgue and they did autopsies because that's what his dad did for a living, and now he's a brilliant doctor. So that's -- if I put something like that, then you'd be twisting it into something horrible.

    GUTHRIE: Did you warn your mom at all, 'Hey, this book is coming. Some people might perceive it as me dishing on you.'

    Ms. STEWART: All of these stories Jennifer and I have told them on television show ...

    Ms. HUTT: Yeah.

    Ms. STEWART: ...on the radio. They're funny. Everyone has stories like this from their -- from their lives. Everyone.

    Ms. HUTT: And nobody has a perfect childhood.

    Ms. STEWART: Nobody.

    GUTHRIE: Well, let's get to some of our viewer questions. The first one came from Mary in Daytona Beach , Florida . And she says, " Alexis , do you hope that you will have the same relationship with your daughter that you had growing up with your mother? What would you do differently?"

    Ms. STEWART: Well, I think that being older than my mother was, was a great help because I have much more life experience to look back on. But do I hope my daughter's close with me like I am with my mother? Of course.

    GUTHRIE: Sherrill , from Arcadia , asks if you regret making public some of these less-than-flattering truths about your mother?

    Ms. STEWART: I don't think they're less than flattering. I think they're...

    Ms. HUTT: Just truths.

    Ms. STEWART: ...just truths. Like everyone else, she's a human being . So am I. So is the lady who asked that question.

    GUTHRIE: Did you -- did she see it coming? Did Martha know this was coming?

    Ms. STEWART: As I just said, we've never -- these are stories that have been told...

    Ms. HUTT: Yeah.

    Ms. STEWART: ... over and over and over again.

    GUTHRIE: OK. We talked last hour about how the two of you, having hosted a show together for six years, are no longer friends.

    Ms. HUTT: It happens.

    GUTHRIE: Well, Deidre asked, 'Why write a book together if you're not friends?'

    Ms. HUTT: Well we wrote the book while we were still working together...

    Ms. STEWART: Mm-hmm.

    Ms. HUTT: ...and still maintaining a good friendship. Things change . When we wrote the book, everything in the book was...

    Ms. STEWART: I don't -- and it doesn't invalidate the book.

    Ms. HUTT: ...actual. It's not -- yeah.

    Ms. STEWART: It does -- everything in the book...

    Ms. HUTT: Yeah.

    Ms. STEWART: Here's the book.

    GUTHRIE: You're selling the book... two.

    Ms. HUTT: Yeah. It's life lessons. Listen, it's life lessons.

    Ms. STEWART: Right.

    Ms. HUTT: Everybody's life is -- has great moments of joy, and other moments of not such joy, and moments of awkwardness and happiness and ease. So that's in the book and that's life.

    GUTHRIE: Well, it's funny because just in the hours since we've talked, I've gotten a lot tweets and people on Facebook asking me about it because they -- this is curious to them, how it is that you could be friends for a long time...

    Ms. HUTT: I don't know. Listen, women...

    GUTHRIE: ...and then suddenly not. I think people think, 'Gosh, something must have happened.' Who instigated the breakup?

    Ms. HUTT: I -- I...

    Ms. STEWART: Nothing happened.

    Ms. HUTT: It's not like an instigated type thing.

    Ms. STEWART: I think one day it -- one day you look at your husband, and you're like, 'Oh, not anymore.'

    Ms. HUTT: Right, that's how she looked at me.

    GUTHRIE: Well, do you think -- are you OK with that?

    Ms. HUTT: I mean, it's sad but I'm -- of course, I'm OK?

    GUTHRIE: Didn't it hurt your feelings?

    Ms. HUTT: I have great friends, I have a full life. I have a terrific husband and two lovely kids.

    Ms. STEWART: She doesn't need me. What does she need me for?

    Ms. HUTT: I mean, I -- listen, I -- would I be friends with Alexis still, of course. Do I understand that I'm not really her type in terms of a friend, sure. So it's OK.

    GUTHRIE: OK, but to the larger question, I mean, this is an advice book, above all things.

    Ms. STEWART: Mm-hmm. Sure.

    GUTHRIE: And if people are looking at you as dispensers of advice. What are they to make of this?

    Ms. STEWART: Yeah.

    Ms. HUTT: So in other words you...

    Ms. STEWART: Well, that never happens to other people that they -- that they fall out of love ? That never happens?

    GUTHRIE: I don't know.

    Ms. HUTT: No one else has ever been dumped.

    GUTHRIE: Yeah.

    Ms. HUTT: I think the fact that -- yeah.

    Ms. STEWART: All of those stories are in the book.

    GUTHRIE: Yeah.

    Ms. STEWART: So what do you do when you're dumped?

    GUTHRIE: You're saying this is real, this is life.

    Ms. HUTT: We're saying that we're OK.

    GUTHRIE: Yeah.

    Ms. STEWART: It's life and it can be funny, and sometimes horrible things are happening to me and I think, 'This is going to make a good story.'

    GUTHRIE: Amy from Ohio asked Jennifer , "You seem like a very sweet girl. How has your life changed now that you and Alexis are not as close as you used to be?"

    Ms. HUTT: Oh my goodness, I mean, it's...

    Ms. STEWART: It's exactly the same.

    Ms. HUTT: Listen, do I...

    Ms. STEWART: I'll answer for her. She's......

    Ms. HUTT: Listen, do I miss her? Yes. Would I like to email Alexis and be like, 'What's going on with the baby and what's this' -- sure. But do I know that's not who Alexis is? Yes, and that's OK. It's about accepting who people are, what they want and don't want, and I'm OK with that. I have lunch with my girlfriends once a week. I do the radio show every day. Alexis doesn't want to do it anymore, OK. I still do it.

    GUTHRIE: So you would be friends with Alexis if you could.

    Ms. HUTT: Sure.

    GUTHRIE: But Alexis , it doesn't go the other way.

    Ms. STEWART: People are different .

    Ms. HUTT: Yeah.

    GUTHRIE: What are people to think of your relationship with your mother? I mean, I, for example, I covered her court case, and I know you were there almost everyday. You really stuck by her.

    Ms. STEWART: I was there every day, actually.

    GUTHRIE: Yeah.

    Ms. STEWART: Maybe you weren't there every day, but I was.

    GUTHRIE: Yeah, so you were. So to your credit you were there every day.

    Ms. STEWART: Well, of course. Why wouldn't I be?

    GUTHRIE: So what's your relationship like? What would you want people to know about your relationship.

    Ms. STEWART: We're incredibly close and we're both very opinionated people. So while we can be together having a nice time, we can also have an animated discussion, a, slash, argument about something, because that's normal. So if we agree on everything, how boring would that be.

    GUTHRIE: Well, let me get back to something that I think touched a nerve with both of you when we talked about it last hour. I said that a lot of your success or your public image is derivative of Martha Stewart .

    Ms. HUTT: Right.

    Ms. STEWART: That's true.

    GUTHRIE: The book has Martha shot through it, the whole whatever thing.

    Ms. STEWART: But, that's my life. Should I not talk about it?

    GUTHRIE: No, I -- what I'm.

    Ms. HUTT: If you're parent is a plumber, you might go into the plumbing business. It's...

    Ms. STEWART: Not only that, but none of your faucets would work in your house.

    Ms. HUTT: Well, that is true.

    Ms. STEWART: Right? And there would be no prepared food in the refrigerator.

    Ms. HUTT: Uh-huh .

    GUTHRIE: So you don't -- so you have no misgivings about sort of biting the hand that feeds ?

    Ms. STEWART: We didn't bite.

    Ms. HUTT: We were -- wait a minute, not only did we not bite, I mean, we had a radio show together for five-and-a-half years. Today is the sixth anniversary of that radio show . It's not like this is all from yesterday. And the book came out of listening to women who were asking for help and women who seemed to be soothed by the fact that we have issues, tons and tons of issues, and we're happy to share them.

    Ms. STEWART: Mm-hmm.

    GUTHRIE: That leads me to a good final point, which, what is the message that you hope people will take from this book?

    Ms. STEWART: That you can either be really sad about all the horrible things that have happened to you.

    GUTHRIE: Because a lot of horrible things happen to you?

    Ms. STEWART: No. That's the whole point, the book is funny.

    GUTHRIE: Right.

    Ms. STEWART: We're taking everything and we're blowing it out of proportion as an example for how you can take your life and just laugh at it and then move on.

    GUTHRIE: OK. All right. Jennifer and Alexis , it's good to talk to you this morning. Thanks for being here.

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updated 10/21/2011 2:40:09 PM ET 2011-10-21T18:40:09

Alexis Stewart and Jennifer Koppelman Hutt use their colorful commentary and edgy common sense to address every aspect of life in “Whateverland: Learning to Live Here.” This dynamic duo suggests not worrying about being perfect and just learning to accept yourself! Here's an excerpt.

Introduction
We’re Not Qualified to Give Advice, but We Give It Anyway

You’re not the only one who’s crazy and full of shame. We are, too.

Alexis lightens the blow of her caustic personality by presenting new acquaintances with baked goods. While the rest of the world sleeps, Alexis bakes, cleans, or organizes, but she rarely consumes the fruits of her labor. In addition to being an insomniac, Alexis is obsessive about nutrition and exercise and, in the eyes of some people, pathologically oversexualized. So far, all of these issues have worked in her favor. She is highly productive, is superfit, and has never wanted for an orgasm.

Although New York magazine accused Alexis of being Martha’s id, she is in reality much more than that: a voracious reader, a contentious cultural critic, and as much a devotee of Andy Rooney as of Andy Borowitz. Alexis has owned a series of businesses, all of which, unfortunately, eventually bored her. And although her mother’s television show used to bore her as well, she really likes lampooning it with Jennifer.

Have a question for Alexis Stewart or Jennifer Koppelman Hutt? Email us!

For a long time Jennifer wouldn’t look at her weight when she got on the scale—she paid a stranger to tell her whether she was down or up. Jennifer has a frighteningly comprehensive collection of Hello Kitty merchandise and an obsessive fear of flying. She is a self-congratulatory teetotaler who wears her emotions on her sleeve. When Jennifer doesn’t hear from her husband for an hour, she worries that he’s been hurt or incapacitated or that he’s dead. She is an attorney, a notary, and a full-time mother of two children whose faces she won’t allow to appear on the Internet. Jenny is brave enough to discuss her personal grief about losing her mother to pancreatic cancer in front of millions of people but is incapable of blow-drying her own hair (she can, however, rock a curling iron like the best of them).

Dolly Parton told Jennifer she’d be a star, Barbra Streisand was practically her aunt (Jennifer’s father has been in the music business for fifty years), and she can sing and dance almost as well as many on Broadway. But Jennifer’s best talent is her ability to connect with virtually anyone by using her charm, pathos, and self-deprecating humor. Everyone agrees that Jennifer would have been an excellent shrink, but who wants to deal with the proximity to blood and bodily fluids that medical school requires?

Wiley

We’ve built careers on our neuroses. On our television and radio shows — Whatever, Martha!, Whatever with Alexis and Jennifer, and Whatever, You’re Wrong! — we went on and on (and on) about our insecurities, our childhoods, our relationships, and our bathroom habits. With us, there’s no such thing as TMI. Ever.

Even though technically we may not have been qualified to do so, we gave thoughtful, effective, just plain good advice to people every day, if we do say so ourselves. Between us we have an Ivy League degree, a law degree, a notary stamp, three children, one business, a hit radio show, and two phenomenal handbag collections — so that must count for something.

Why did we write this book, and why are you reading it? You’re not the only one who needs help but hates self-help books.

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We know that all of those other books tend to be written by established experts: industry leaders in the fields of organizational psychology, self-hypnosis, culinary mastery, home improvement, animal husbandry, or whatever. But we’ve yet to find one that is actually helpful. All they do is bring us face-to-face with our insecurities and inadequacies, presenting ridiculous solutions so bizarre they just lead to more problems. Craziest of all, they try to change people’s fundamental natures, and that’s just silly. People don’t really change, after all. They just become more of who they really are.

So we set out to come up with a self-help book that would have lasting effects. And we couldn’t think of a better way to make our suggestions last than to focus on the very things that people hate the most about themselves: their shameful behaviors, thoughts, feelings, failings, and insecurities. People’s issues — including ours — are funny and so not unique.

Just to prove that we mean business and to let readers know that they’re not alone, we’ve shared our own shameful behaviors, thoughts, feelings, failings, and insecurities. We’re not afraid to be our own worst critics or to show our Achilles’ heels. If we can thrive with our embarrassing, humiliating, shameful crap, then our readers can, too. Because you’re only as sick as your secrets.

While Alexis is sarcastic, Jennifer is sincere. And when Alexis is sincere, Jennifer is—really, really surprised. Sometimes we agree, most of the time we don’t, but we always have an opinion, and we
never shut up. In other words, this isn’t your mother’s self-help book.

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And it’s not Alexis’s mother’s self-help book, either. It’s just two regular women (okay, who are we kidding, but whatever) talking about how coming to terms with who you really are—and who you’re never going to be—isn’t nearly as scary as you think.

Chapter 2
Does Talking to Pop-Tarts Mean You’re Crazy?
Alexis and Jennifer on Food and Eating

When Martha eats baked beans out of a can, her favorite part is the cube of fat.
Alexis Stewart

My mother knew that people preferred to eat chocolate alone somewhere. In secret. That’s why in our house she’d keep chocolate in a little bowl on the bathroom sink, as if they were guest soap.
Jennifer Koppelman Hutt

Have as many as you like. One is fine.
Martha Stewart, to children eating freshly baked cookies on her show

Alexis hasn’t eaten meat since I fed her Plantagenet Palliser.
Martha Stewart

To eat crap or not to eat crap: that’s another topic — food — on which Alexis and Jennifer often differ.

Martha: Daughter Alexis Stewart's book is 'hilarious'

Alexis grew up on lemon sorbet and sunny fish (whatever sunny fish is), while Jennifer became a connoisseuse of Pop-Tarts and pizza.

Jennifer has recently radically changed her eating habits, but she still craves junk food. Alexis craves junk food, too—to her, junk food includes frozen peas and anything in a package.

If we could, we’d insert a little picture of Jennifer rolling her eyes right now and mouthing the word freak because really, who else but Alexis would consider frozen vegetables to be junk food? But that’s what we’re dealing with here: a radically bizarre childhood in which there wasn’t any prepackaged store-bought food in the house. Sometimes there wasn’t any food in Alexis’s house, but that’s another story (keep reading). In the meantime, Alexis and Jennifer compare notes on what they ate, what they hate, and family mishigas around eating and food.

Reprinted from "Whateverland: Learning to Live Here" by Alexis Stewart and Jennifer Koppelman Hutt © 2011 by Alexis Stewart and Jennifer Koppelman Hutt. Used with permission of the publisher, Wiley.

© 2012 MSNBC Interactive

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