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    >>> charlie sheen looking to make a comeback after a rough year personally and professionally. we'll get to matt's exclusive interview in a moment. first nbc's jeff rossen who spent a lot of time with charlie during the controversy has the latest.

    >> good morning, carl.

    >>> this year charlie sheen lost his kids and his job and, he says, he quit drugs and alcohol too. now charlie says he is a changed man making amends with his ex-wives and hollywood .

    >> please welcome the rock star from mars, charlie sheen .

    >> there he is, back in the spotlight. exactly where charlie sheen likes to be. his latest project? a roast on comedy central . the guest of honor? the man, himself.

    >> prostitutes cost a lot of money, charlie . hasn't anyone told you that actresses will sleep with you for free? that's hollywood 101.

    >> sheen , considered a hollywood a-lister, was the highest paid actor on television, making nearly $2 million an episode on the sitcom "two and a half men." but things started to unravel last year when sheen allegedly went on a drunken rampage against a porn star at new york's famed plaza hotel . there was a stint in rehab and then rehab at home. network executives had enough and fired sheen from "two and a half men." i spoke with charlie as it all unfolded in february.

    >> you're angry.

    >> i'm not angry. i'm passionate. that's like everybody thinks i should be like begging for my job back and i'm just going to forewarn them that it's everybody else that's going to be begging me for their job back.

    >> reporter: in the end they offered his job to someone else . ashton kutcher . sheen endured a bitter custody battle over his twin boys. the kids, removed from his mansion on camera. all the while sheen was living with two women he called his goddesses.

    >> it's pretty normal. you know?

    >> reporter: sheen is no longer with the god desses but he did coin some strange phrases that live on.

    >> duh. winning. they picked a fight with a warlock. tiger blood. adonis dna. tired of being like a total rock star from mars.

    >> reporter: today charlie sheen is repairing relationships starting with his ex-wife mother to his twin boys brooke mueller the couple spotted together celebrating his birthday earlier this month. he is 46.

    >> i'm doing great. i'm killing it. it's going to be a blowout you know?

    >> sheen is also developing a new sitcom called " anger management ." still unclear what network will buy it. as we know he likes to make a splash. his " comedy central " roast airs monday night the same night as the season premiere of "two and a half men" which reportedly features his character's death. must be a coincidence.

    >> jeff rossen , thank you for that. now to matt's exclusive interview with charlie sheen . they sat down earlier this week and began by talking about charlie 's current emotional state .

    >> how are you?

    >> doing really good.

    >> yeah?

    >> really good.

    >> physically?

    >> i feel great.

    >> how about emotionally?

    >> emotionally is a whole different story, matt.

    >> tell me about it.

    >> got about seven hours?

    >> well where are you?

    >> no, good emotionally.

    >> i got this sense last time we spoke and i was watching you on these other interviews that you were in a bit of a manic and i don't mean that as a diagnosis.

    >> sure.

    >> i mean it more as an adjective.

    >> yeah.

    >> a manic period. you were running in a hundred different directions physically and emotionally.

    >> sure, yeah.

    >> how would you describe your emotional state now?

    >> it's really a lot calmer. it's a lot mellower, yeah. no, that was a time when, you know, what -- what happened -- i don't really know what happened. it was one of those things where, boy, the planets were either aligned to -- perfectly or imperfectly -- but i just said some stuff and then it caught such traction globally and instantly that i couldn't -- i couldn't really put out the fire , you know, so i had to kind of keep fueling it. all it was was --

    >> why did you think you could put it out? because you were in control of what you were saying and you were the one granting the interviews and the assurances.

    >> sure. why couldn't you manage to put the brakes on it?

    >> well, because it took on a life of its own and people grabbed on to these catch phrases , these metaphors as it were. and they just ran with it. it seemed like it caught people at a time when they needed something different to root for, or to get inside of and feel the energy, you know. it's, again, impossible to explain how something like that can happen. i don't think it can ever happen again.

    >> what was it like to be in the middle of it? could you even get your arms around how big it became? did you understand --

    >> no.

    >> how many people were talking about you?

    >> no, no. it was like being shot out of a cannon into another cannon and then just shot out of that one. yeah. it was like one, from one moment to the next. i didn't know what was going to happen. it was pretty exciting. and then a whole --

    >> scary or exciting?

    >> both. both. yeah. but, you know, i had the whole thing i don't believe in fear and defeat is not an option and i had to live by those mottos regardless of how i felt. but yeah, looking back on it, i mean, i don't think i would trade it but there's portions of it i might have amended a little bit.

    >> like? what would you have done differently?

    >> just, i don't know, the tiger blood, adonis dna stuff like that is so silly and people took it so seriously and i figured all right. i'll continue to give people what they want. you know?

    >> when this began, charlie , you were the highest paid actor on television. since that time you don't work for the show anymore?

    >> i don't.

    >> did you realize it was going to end that way with you not being on "two and a half men" anymore or did you think this was a little forest fire that broke out but that would be put out in time to save you and the show?

    >> i thought when i was still doing my tour that there was a shot.

    >> did you want there to be a shot? did you want to stay with the show?

    >> there was a time when i did, absolutely. oh, yeah. regardless of how i felt about some of the people or how it went wrong or why it went wrong, i still wanted to have some measure of closure with the show, you know. that's the part that really hurt the most was not feeling like i could ever really finish it.

    >> was there a thought in your mind, though, that they needed you so badly that you could behave pretty much any way you wanted and at some point they would have to come back in the end and mend fences?

    >> i thought for sure that ah they can't do this without me. come on. you know. the show is about this guy. which is a little confusing, matt, when you think about it. they create a show about a guy, you know, who's a partier. that guy starts partying then gets fired. it's like, make up your minds, people. you know?

    >> one is a role and the other is real life here.

    >> yeah, yeah, yeah. but, yeah. i guess those lines can get a little blurred, you know.

    >> you, i think it was maybe back in february or something you said you were going to get clean. you were turning your house into a sober valley lodge. right?

    >> said that as a joke.

    >> well, are you sober?

    >> yeah. absolutely.

    >> when is the last time you had a drink or something more?

    >> i don't really keep track of the time. it's been a while but i don't -- because i feel like without getting into my whole feelings about aa and all that stuff, i just feel like, you know, if you're walking around hanging on to your time that it's only, you know, a matter of time before it goes.

    >> you're no longer with the goddesses?

    >> uh-huh.

    >> is that correct?

    >> yeah.

    >> so what is the biggest way your life has changed on a daily basis?

    >> my children. seeing my kids a lot more. mending fences with denise and brooke. just trying to move forward and prioritize what matters. you know, just really get back in touch with just more -- with some more reality and some more -- it's what i call the moments inside the moments. i think that's where the life is, you know, it's in those quiet moments. it's not the giant tv deal or the big party or the award or whatever. it's the memory of your child's smile at the end of the day that sort of brings that one lonesome tear. you know that tear, right, matt?

    >> i've had those tears, more than one lonesome one.

    >> right. but it's those moments that matter .

    >> how hard is it to men fences given what you've been through in the last year?

    >> there's always a chance, you know, to fix things or to forgive or to be forgiven. and you just got to be -- or i have to just be mature enough and focused enough and on point enough to know that at the end of the day it's not just about, you know, wanting solution or wanting harmony. it's about what i can bring to it and how i can lead by example again, you know.

    >> you seem like a very different guy. you know, i'll be perfectly --

    >> sane?

    >> i didn't say that. but i'll be perfectly honest. this isn't what i expected.

    >> oh, really. thank you.

    >> you're much more interroe introspective today than you were when we spoke on the phone six months ago.

    >> well, i think it's important that people see that i see and that i feel that that was just one crazy chapter, one weird phase, and that i was, you know, this guy before it started so i could be that guy again afterward, you know.

    >> so we've talked about how your life has changed on a daily basis. how much impact do you think this episode, i don't know what else to call it.

    >> i don't either. odyssey.

    >> how much did that odyssey impact your reputation in your opinion?

    >> it's hard to say. the fanfare that it created was pretty crazy. and still exists to this day. i still hear, you know, winning and tiger blood and all that stuff. as i'm walking down the street. i think that the winning slogan was important because it gave people a chance to just feel something different, to feel victorious even if it was real or imagined. you know?

    >> and charlie had much more to say about his old show, his new projects, and what the future holds. we'll have more of matt's exclusive interview in our next half hour. but first these messages.

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updated 9/16/2011 7:50:06 AM ET 2011-09-16T11:50:06

Charlie Sheen opens up to Matt Lauer on TODAY, talking not just about being “mellower” now than he was when he was spewing tiger blood, but also about how he really thought he’d go back to "Two and a Half Men" when the dust settled on his scandal.

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"I thought when I was still doing my tour that there was a shot (at going back),” he told Lauer. Why was such a thing important to Sheen? It was about having some sense of closure on the show.

Sheen says he 'couldn't really put out the fire'

"Regardless of how I felt about some of the people, or how it went wrong, or why it went wrong, I still wanted to have some measure of closure with the show,” Sheen said. “That’s the part that really hurt the most, was not feeling like I could ever really finish it, just cut off, right in the middle."

At the time, Sheen says he was convinced the show couldn’t go on without him.

"I thought for sure that, 'oh they can’t do this without me,'" he told Lauer. "I mean come on, you know the show’s about this guy ... they create a show about a guy who was a partier, that guy starts partying and gets fired. It’s like, make up your minds, people."

Ashton Kutcher, of course, has replaced Sheen as the lead on "Men," which has its season premiere on Monday — the same night Sheen’s Comedy Central Roast airs.

And when it comes to all the antics and leaving that part of himself behind, Sheen appears to recognize the about face he is attempting to pull off.

"I think it's important that people see that I see and I feel that that was just one crazy chapter, one weird phase, and that I was this guy before it started and I can be that guy again afterwards, you know," he told Lauer.

And how does the one-time highest paid actor on television think his reputation held up?

"It's hard to say, I think if we surveyed the business side of things, people might still be wanting some proof that things are cool, but um, the fanfare that it created was pretty crazy and still exists to this day," Sheen said. "I still hear, you know, winning, and tiger blood and all that stuff as I'm walking down the street. I think the winning slogan was important though, because um, because it gave people a chance to just feel something different, to just feel victorious, whether it was real or imagined, you know."

Sheen felt sting of words in roast
Given the ways in which Sheen was openly mocked after his initial meltdown, you’d think the Comedy Central Roast would count as just another round in the celebrity smackdown. Not so, he tells Lauer.

"It was raunchy. I thought I'd heard everything twice. Clearly I hadn't," Sheen said. "Yeah, no, they said, prepare yourself, and I said it's just words. At the end of the day it's just words and I was sitting there, and it was not just words. They were very biting."

Much has been made of the fact that the special and season premiere of "Two and a Half Men" will broadcast on the same night (though not at the same time) and Sheen says that he’ll be among those turning in to the latter.

"Of course I will (watch 'Men')," Sheen told Lauer. "I'm also really curious about what happened to me. Because I don't look at it just as what they're doing forward, I look at it as what I left behind for them to continue, and how they're going to figure all that out. So really, my hat's off to them, if they can pull it off."

As for Sheen moving forward, he told Lauer that he’s working on a film project with Roman Coppola, as well as a television series loosely based on the film "Anger Management," though he says there is no setting or cast for the series yet.

But before Sheen finds himself back on a television screen, he wants fans to know one thing: he’s a guy you can rely on, despite the more recent past.

"I'm not going to let (the fans) down," he told Lauer. "I'm not going to let them down when they put down money for a ticket or if they turn to the channel that I'm on, that I'm going to continue to deliver the things that have kept them interested the past three decades."

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  1. Family affair

    Martin Sheen, Charlie Sheen's real-life father plays Martin, on Charlie's show "Anger Management." (FX) Back to slideshow navigation
  2. Smoking man

    Sheen, left, holds a necrotic lung affected by tobacco use and a healthy lung as he talks to Dr. Oz during a taping of "The Dr. Oz Show," in New York. Sheen, who is a heavy smoker, also discussed his manic behavior and anger issues in the January 2013 episode. (Barbara Nitke / AP) Back to slideshow navigation
  3. Star power

    Sheen, left, speaks as former Guns N' Roses guitarist Slash is honored with a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame on July 10, 2012 in Hollywood, Calif. (Joe Klamar / AFP - Getty Images) Back to slideshow navigation
  4. Play ball!

    Sheen acknowledges the fans before throwing out the first pitch at a baseball game between the Cincinnati Reds and the San Diego Padres at Petco Park on July 7, 2012 in San Diego. (Denis Poroy / Getty Images) Back to slideshow navigation
  5. In the hot seat

    Comedy Central roasted Sheen in one of their infamous specials on Sept. 10, 2011. (Christopher Polk / Getty Images) Back to slideshow navigation
  6. Enter the Warlock

    Sheen shows off his Detroit Tigers jersey during his performance at the Fox Theatre in Detroit on Saturday, April 2, 2011. Promising "the real story," the 45-year-old former "Two and a Half Men" star hit the road for a month-long, 20-city variety show tour, with the first stop a sold-out show in Detroit. (Carlos Osorio / AP) Back to slideshow navigation
  7. Thumbs down

    A Sheen fan offers her review while leaving the Fox Theatre in Detroit on April 2, 2011. (Geoff Robins / AFP - Getty Images) Back to slideshow navigation
  8. The gang's all here

    Sheen, second from left, is joined by Joey Scoleri of Live Nation, left, and "goddesses" Bree Olson and Natalie Kenly, right, at the after party for his Chicago tour stop at Enclave on April 3, 2011. (Daniel Boczarski / Getty Images) Back to slideshow navigation
  9. Blood thirst

    Charlie Sheen is seen on the rooftop of the Live Nation building drinking "Tiger Blood" in Beverly Hills, Calif., on March 7, 2011. The "Two and a Half" men star was fired from the show earlier in the day by Warner Bros. (Jean Baptiste Lacroix / WireImage) Back to slideshow navigation
  10. Two for one

    Sheen poses with the two women he refers to as his "goddesses" in the kitchen of his Los Angeles home during the first week of March 2011. Natalie "Natty" Kenly, left, a model, and Rachel Oberlin, aka porn star Bree Olsen, gained fame during the actor's media blitz over his fight with CBS and Warner Bros. television. (Michael Austin / NBC News) Back to slideshow navigation
  11. Plenty to say

    Adult film star Capri Anderson, the woman who was in Charlie Sheen's hotel room the night he allegedly trashed his suite, talks with ABC about the incident. Claiming to have feared for her life upon being locked in the bathroom, Capri said, "I'm not going to stand down and be completely be walked over." Anderson filed a harassment lawsuit, Sheen then countersued for extortion, and the case was dropped. (ABC via Getty Images) Back to slideshow navigation
  12. Before the storm

    Sheen joins his ex wife Denise Richards and their daughters Sam and Lola in a trip to the American Museum of Natural History in New York on Oct. 25, 2010. Their museum visit ended a weekend together in which the four of them went shopping at an American Girl store, dined at Serafina Broadway and took in the Broadway show Mary Poppins.

    Sheen was later hospitalized after he was found drunk and naked with an alleged escort in his trashed room at The Plaza hotel. Damages to the room reportedly totaled $7,000. The actor's rep later said Sheen had had an allergic reaction to medication. (INFphoto.com) Back to slideshow navigation
  13. Back to rehab

    Sheen, second from right, arrives with his attorney Richard Cummins, second from left, for a sentencing hearing at the Pitkin County Courthouse in Aspen, Colo., on Aug. 2, 2010. Sheen was sentenced under a plea deal to get a 30-day sentence to be "administered and executed" at Promises rehab facility in Malibu, Calif., for assaulting his wife Brooke Mueller during an alcohol-fueled Christmas Day quarrel in Aspen. (Rick Wilking / Reuters) Back to slideshow navigation
  14. See you in a month

    Sheen, right, leaves the Pitkin County Courthouse with his attorney Richard Cummins in Aspen, Colo., on Monday, June 7, 2010. A sentencing hearing for the actor in his domestic assault case against wife Brooke Mueller was continued until July 12. (Ed Andrieski / AP) Back to slideshow navigation
  15. More troubles

    Sheen's Mercedes was apparently stolen from his Shermon Oaks, Calif., home in early 2010. It was found overturned hundreds of feet down a nearby cliff. On June 15, 2010, police reported a second Mercedes suffered the same fate. (Gus Ruelas / AP) Back to slideshow navigation
  16. Not-so-merry Christmas

    Brooke Mueller Sheen called police on Christmas Day, 2009, reporting that Sheen attacked and threatened her. (Riccardo S. Savi / Getty Images) Back to slideshow navigation
  17. Got my designs on you

    Sheen has collaborated with the owner of the Rock & Roll Religion clothing line to create a line of shirts called the DaVinci Collection by Charlie Sheen. Sheen's "Two and a Half Men" character wears similar shirts. (Ethan Miller / Getty Images) Back to slideshow navigation
  18. Viva ALMA!

    Sheen, born Carlos Estevez, captured the outstanding male performance in a comedy TV series award at the 2008 ALMA Awards. The honors are given to Latino performers who promote positive portrayals of Latinos in the entertainment field. Sheen's paternal grandparents were Spanish, his maternal grandparents Irish. (Frank Micelotta / Getty Images) Back to slideshow navigation
  19. Trying marriage again

    In 2008, Sheen married real-estate investor Brooke Mueller, seen here with Sheen and his daughters, Sam and Lola. The couple's twins, Bob and Max, were born on March 14, 2009. A Christmas Day fight that same year has sent Sheen's latest round of marital woes back into the tabloids. (Donato Sardella / WireImage) Back to slideshow navigation
  20. Play clothes for the posh

    Fashion executive Michael Berens, Sheen and clothing designer Suzanne Ciulla pose with children wearing clothes from Sheen Kidz, a couture children’s sportswear inspired by Sheen’s daughters, Sam and Lola. (Donato Sardella / WireImage) Back to slideshow navigation
  21. A 'Platoon' reunited

    Actor Willem Dafoe, director Oliver Stone, an unidentified guest, Sheen and Tom Berenger reunited for a screening of their classic film "Platoon" at the 2006 Cannes Film Festival in France. (Francois Durand / Getty Images) Back to slideshow navigation
  22. 'Bounce' back

    Sheen starred in "The Big Bounce," a critical flop, in 2004. Although the film was based on a novel by Elmore Leonard and features Owen Wilson and Morgan Freeman in addition to Sheen, it was a disaster, and cost $50 million to make. It earned back only $6 million. (Warner Bros.) Back to slideshow navigation
  23. Men, men, men, men, manly men

    Sheen and Jon Cryer play brothers with opposite temperaments in the CBS hit comedy "Two and a Half Men." Sheen reportedly earns $825,000 per episode on the show. (CBS via Getty Images) Back to slideshow navigation
  24. Till divorce do us part

    Sheen married actress Denise Richards in 2002, and they had two daughters, Sam and Lola. Richards filed for divorce in 2005, and the details of their marriage, estrangement and custody battle quickly became tabloid fodder. Richards accused Sheen of abusing drugs and alcohol, and threatening her with violence. (Robert Mora / Getty Images) Back to slideshow navigation
  25. Keep the Globe spinning

    In 2002, Sheen won the Golden Globe Award for best performance by an actor in a television comedy or musical series for his role in "Spin City." (Scott Nelson / AFP - Getty Images) Back to slideshow navigation
  26. Putting a 'Spin' on things

    Sheen, shown with Barry Bostwick and Heather Locklear, played Charlie Crawford on "Spin City" from 2000 to 2002. As he does in "Two and a Half Men," Sheen played a character with the same first name as himself. Tony Danza Syndrome, perhaps? (ABC via Getty Images) Back to slideshow navigation
  27. X marks the film

    Sheen teamed again with brother Emilio Estevez to play real-life brothers Jim and Artie Mitchell in 2000's "Rated X." The Mitchells were pioneers in the pornography and strip-club industries in San Francisco in the 1970s and '80s. (Showtime via Getty Images) Back to slideshow navigation
  28. In court

    Drug issues have troubled Sheen for years. In 1998, he appeared in a Malibu, Calif., courtroom, where a judge ruled that the actor, who nearly died of a drug overdose five months before, could be released from his rehabilitation facility. (Nick Ut / AP) Back to slideshow navigation
  29. He'll be there for you

    Sheen kisses Lisa Kudrow in his appearance on the hit show "Friends" in 1996. (NBC) Back to slideshow navigation
  30. Geronimo!

    In 1994's "Terminal Velocity," Sheen starred with Nastassja Kinski in a film about a skydiver who apparently dies on her first jump, but turns out to have faked her death. (Walt Disney Studios) Back to slideshow navigation
  31. Family of stars

    Sheen, father Martin Sheen and brother Emilio Estevez unveil Charlie's star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame in 1994. (Jim Smeal / WireImage) Back to slideshow navigation
  32. All for one, and one for all

    Sheen played Aramis, one of "The Three Musketeers," in the 1993 film version of Alexandre Dumas' classic story. Kiefer Sutherland played Athos, Oliver Platt played Porthos, and Chris O'Donnell played D'Artagnan, who longs to join the trio. (Walt Disney Studios) Back to slideshow navigation
  33. Daddy and daughter

    Sheen and his daughter, Cassandra Jade Estevez, attended the 1992 premiere of "The Mighty Ducks." Sheen was just 19 when Cassandra was born. (Ron Galella / WireImage) Back to slideshow navigation
  34. Mullet man

    In the comedy spoofs "Hot Shots" and "Hot Shots Part Deux," Sheen plays Navy pilot Topper Harley. "Part Deux" parodies the action-movie genre, particularly the Rambo films. (20th Century Fox) Back to slideshow navigation
  35. Brothers at work

    Sheen and brother Emilio Estevez teamed up in 1990's "Men at Work," about two garbage collectors who discover a corpse. (Triumph Releasing) Back to slideshow navigation
  36. Three strikes, yer out

    Sheen, right, and Tom Berenger starred in 1989's "Major League," a comedy about a fictionalized version of the Cleveland Indians. Sheen played Ricky Vaughn, an out-of-control pitcher who improves once he gets glasses. (Paramount via Everett Collection) Back to slideshow navigation
  37. Bang, bang, my baby shot me down

    In 1990, before Kelly Preston wed John Travolta, she was engaged to Sheen, who gave her a 2.5 carat pink diamond engagement ring. The engagement ended shortly after he accidentally shot her in the arm, causing a wound that required stitches. (Ron Galella / WireImage) Back to slideshow navigation
  38. Guns blazing

    Sheen, middle right, and Emilio Estevez, front, starred with Lou Diamond Phillips, Kiefer Sutherland, Casey Siemaszko and Dermot Mulroney in 1988's Western, "Young Guns." (20th Cenury Fox via Everett Collection) Back to slideshow navigation
  39. Greed is good

    Sheen starred in 1987's "Wall Street," where he plays Bud Fox, a young, ambitious trader who falls under the spell of ruthless millionaire Gordon Gekko, played by Michael Douglas. Reportedly Sheen and director Oliver Stone parted ways after Stone approached Sheen to star in "Born on the Fourth of July," but then cast Tom Cruise without telling Sheen. (20th Century Fox) Back to slideshow navigation
  40. Fighting the war outside and the war inside

    In 1986's "Platoon," Sheen, center, starred with Willem Dafoe and Tom Berenger in Stone's critically lauded Vietnam War movie. The film was based on Stone's own war experiences, and is regularly listed by critics as one of the best war films ever made. (Orion Pictures via Everett Collection) Back to slideshow navigation
  41. Putting the moves on Ferris Bueller's sister

    Sheen and Jennifer Grey starred in 1986's "Ferris Bueller's Day Off," with Grey playing Ferris Bueller's snotty sister Jeanie and Sheen a rebel she meets at the police station. (Paramount Pictures) Back to slideshow navigation
  42. WOLVERINES!

    Sheen got his movie start in 1984's "Red Dawn." His fellow young stars included Patrick Swayze, C. Thomas Howell, Lea Thompson and Jennifer Grey. (MGM) Back to slideshow navigation
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