is with us exclusively. congresswoman, good morning.
good morning, lester.
as we saw gov hernor pawlenty go after you, we want to start off the conversation with a little about what he said and then your response.
she fought for less
. he got a lot more. she led the effort against
care, we got
care. she led against t.a.r.p., we got t.a.r.p. if that's your view, please stop because you're killing us.
to his point you came in office with someone with a fresh voice, a clear mandate. can you name an instance where you have moved the needle, where you have significantly altered the outcome of a particular debate?
i certainly have. whether it was on the t.a.r.p. debate or whether it was on
care. in particular now on the last two months when i've been the leading voice almost the lone voice in the wilderness of
fighting against raising the debt ceiling, people paid attention.
but they didn't follow.
and they recognize -- well, remember who has been running
speaker of the house
for the majority of the time that i was there, and
. obviously they weren't interested in my pro-growth agenda. but that's when you fight. you don't fight when you're just in the majority. you fight when you're in the minority. i've been the champion for the voice of people who have been crying for
to stop spending so much money and reduce taxes. people aren't happy with this debt deal. and i'm very happy that i was a leading voice in nonraising the debt ceiling. and i think
standard & poor
's and the
from proved me right in the last weeks.
with regard to
standard & poor
's, you said they lowered our rating because we don't have the ability to pay our debts. in fact, what he said was the political brinksmanship made the government less stable, less effective, less predictable. if your view had prevailed, wouldn't we even be in a deeper pickle with the
i had introduced a plan together with colleagues that would not cause default to occur, because, number one, if i'm part of the
, this is what i would do. i would call all the members of congress back to
immediately. i would say, look, we are getting this aaa
back, we're going to announce to the markets we are not going to default, and then we're going to make sure we pay the military, we pay
who are currently on entitlements, then right now, today, we're going to begin the process of reforming entitlements and reducing spending so our budgets balance. as
president of the united states
, i will only introduce
and i will not increase the debt ceiling. that's what we need to do because that sends a signal to
we're serious, we're tough, we're going to get our financial house in order. i'm a private businessperson. we started our own company. i'm also federal tax lawyer. one thing i know is that you cannot turn the economy around if you give
for $2.4 trillion in exchange for $21 billion in a loose cut.
has to be fundamentally restructured.
you mentioned the term
. this raising the debt ceiling was for bills that had already been agreed to, not new spending.
actually that's not true. this money will go not just to bills that have already been spent. this will be for future money as well. that's a
let me ask you about -- we played a moment ago in
's story the jeers that resulted from the question about whether you would be submissive to your husband. you had made a statement earlier. are you happy the question was asked, did it need clarification?
well, i was happy that i was able to talk about my wonderful husband. you know,
asked the question he asked. i certainly can't make comment about what question he asked. but i was happy to have the opportunity just to be able to talk about my wonderful family and my husband.
the phrase submissive to your husband. for some people it may raise some eyebrows when you first mentioned it. was it important to clarify it and do you think you did clarify your thoughts on that?
oh, i think so. i think it's important to talk about respect. we've been married for 33 years, and the basis of our marriage is respect. i'm just grateful to get that answered and that comment out.
as you know,
, the conservative governor of texas is about to join the already crowded field of gop contenders. he comes from the same conservative cutout that you come from but he also has the added executive of being a chief executive of a state like texas. how do you compete against him and how do you distinguish yourself from him to conservative members of the party?
well, i've been in
, d.c. now going on five years. i have been a very consistent challenger to the unconstitutional policies that
, and i've been at the tip of the sphere on battle after battle. i understand the problems that the country is facing right now. i've worked in the
. i've created a business from scratch. i know what you have to do to create jobs. we need a president who has been a fighter and a champion on the issues of people want us to turn away from. they want us to turn away from spending. i've been there. i've also stood up against my own party. i've stood on principle rather than party. i think that's what people are looking for. i have people -- i've been a voice for movements all across the country, whether it's diseffected democrats or independents or a political people. i've been bringing this voice and this movement into the halls of congress very successfully. and this voice hasn't been heard in the
for a very long time. that's what i intend to do, take this very reasonable, fair-minded voice into the
and finally get the economy turned around and focus on
. and i will repeal
congresswoman bachmann, let me ask you about the "newsweek"
this week. some people thought it was a cheap shot. you did not weigh in. you were not part of those questioning this. let me ask you this. what did you think when you first saw the picture and the title "queen of rage"?
well, you know, it really didn't impact me that much because over this last week the
has received a punch to the gut. we've seen the
plunge, lost for the first time in this country of the aaa
, tragic loss in afghanistan unparalleled and the president got a
. that's not a good week. so a magazine photo is not even a factor in this.
is rage an appropriate word to describe you?
no, not at all. i'm very happy person. i'm very optimistic person because what i know to be true is that if we put the right policies into place, in the next quarter we will already be the beginnings of an economic turn around. that's what i'm focused on. i love people. i really care about where people are at right now in the economy. so i want to focus on making their lives better and getting people back to work. that's what i'm focused on right now.
, again, thank you for taking the time to join us. appreciate it.