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    Dr. MICHELE BORBA (Educational Psychologist): Good. Thank you.

    ROKER: We're all talking about this one.

    Dr. BORBA: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

    ROKER: This is a big deal . Now, this can be almost as difficult for the parent as it is for the kid...

    Dr. BORBA: Oh, sure it is.

    ROKER: ...when deciding to let them quit.

    Dr. BORBA: Sure it is because we know that it is absolutely highly correlated with that stick-to-itiveness as one of the most important traits of success.

    ROKER: Mm-hmm.

    Dr. BORBA: So when do it, when don't. First -- yeah.

    ROKER: So the conversation you have to have.

    Dr. BORBA: The conversation is critical, but the first step is don't give in too quickly.

    ROKER: Mm-hmm.

    Dr. BORBA: You can always do the 'Let's postpone it a week' for the little critter .

    ROKER: Right.

    Dr. BORBA: For the middle critter, it's 'Let's negotiate. Take the cello for the remainder of the year. You can take the tennis, you know, during the summer.'

    ROKER: Mm-hmm.

    Dr. BORBA: And the final one is feel free to flat-out refuse. 'You signed the commitment, sweetie, and you don't have a broken bone.'

    ROKER: Right, mommy and daddy paid for this.

    Dr. BORBA: Right. So there you go.

    ROKER: Now, it's also important to hear what your child is saying.

    Dr. BORBA: You do need to because what you're trying to find out is the quitting motive. Now, it could be your question simply is, 'Hey, you were excited about it this week. What changed now?' or 'If we switched you to another team would that make a difference?' You can also then go one step more and try looking for solutions because you're trying to get your kid over the slump.

    ROKER: And you want your kid to share in that solution.

    Dr. BORBA: Yes, you do. So here's some things you do. Number one is look at yourself and say, 'Are my expectations in line?'

    ROKER: Right.

    Dr. BORBA: Columbia University said the single biggest mistake we make is we don't emphasize the effort. 'You're working hard, keep on going, sweetheart.' We focused on the kid's ability and it actually shortchanges them. You can always put it on the kid's shoulders for the older one.

    ROKER: Mm-hmm.

    Dr. BORBA: You go and talk to your coach and see if you can get more starting time.

    ROKER: So they quit one activity. Maybe not a big deal , but if you start to see -- you have to sorry if you start to see a pattern.

    Dr. BORBA: Yeah. You do worry about a pattern because every kid's going to quit. But what you're looking at is the repeat kind of a kid who always wants to quit or give up. He gets so frustrated with the first sign of defeat.

    ROKER: Mm-hmm.

    Dr. BORBA: He's looking for you as the rescue or he starts to cut the corners, Al .

    ROKER: Mm-hmm. And then you also need to look at this really in a sense case by case and kid by kid.

    Dr. BORBA: Yes. Yes, because here's the bottom line to this. Number one is when you see stress building up in your kid that's spilling over, it's not worth it.

    ROKER: Right.

    Dr. BORBA: Number two is if there's no joy. Kids who are really talented find that joy in the passion in the sport, so find what works for your kid. The teacher is absolutely essential.

    ROKER: So it could -- it might not be the activity, it might be the teacher.

    Dr. BORBA: Yes. And what they've actually...

    ROKER: Or the coach.

    Dr. BORBA: ...done -- oh, Al , they've looked at the highly, highly talented kids and they discovered it isn't IQ or genes that did it. It was the first teacher who was usually the Aunt Bea type. They're nurturing, they're patient, they love the kid, but they get that belief into the kid and they ignite them. The next coach is the Coach Wooden type...

    ROKER: Mm-hmm.

    Dr. BORBA: ...who tells them exactly what to do in order to improve. Gives them the feedback and then they start to succeed.

    ROKER: They start to succeed. Also, once you and your child has made the decision to quit, it's time to move on .

    Dr. BORBA: It's move on, honey, and there's a lesson there. 'That one didn't work, let's find what works for you.'

    ROKER: Mm-hmm. And then you want to also try a couple -- you've got some ideas on different activities on how to do this and maybe keep them in there.

    Dr. BORBA: Yeah, I think the most important one is when we look at kids who really do succeed and make it, it's practice, practice, practice. And we look at good coaches who really help the child. First of all, what they do is they give them the feedback, but they vary it a little bit. They make it a little bit fun so the kid begins to feel that sense of success, 'Oh, I did it.' And then what the glorious thing is it's no longer you pushing them...

    ROKER: Mm-hmm.

    Dr. BORBA: ...they're pushing you.

    ROKER: Right, they're on a roll.

    Dr. BORBA: And that's what you want. They're on a roll.

    ROKER: Michele Borba , thanks so much.

    Dr. BORBA: You're welcome.

    ROKER: Great advice. And we'll have more information on this on our Web site , today.com. Coming up next, some great gifts that give back right after these messages.

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updated 3/16/2011 9:16:05 AM ET 2011-03-16T13:16:05

Perseverance often makes the critical difference between whether kids succeed or fail. Will they have the inner strength to keep on, or be plagued by self-defeat, unwilling to give it their best shot?

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Children who learn to bounce back and not let setbacks get them down have gained a valuable skill for life. If our children are to succeed in this competitive world, they must learn to hang in there and not quit. The good news? Research shows parents can build “stick-to-it-ness” by adopting simple, proven strategies.

Discuss on TODAY Moms: How do you teach perseverance?

Find the right activity
Tune in to your child and find his natural interests, passions or talents. If he loves drawing consider art lessons; if enjoys listening to music, try piano or violin. Ask teachers and other adults for their input. The trick is to gauge your child’s interest in the sport, lesson, or activity — before you start. Remember, the sport that fit your oldest kid may not be right for your middle kid.

Start with the right expectations
Parents who want their kids to stick with a task set the right expectations. Here are five factors to consider:
Kid factor. Is what I’m expecting something my child is interested in or shows a talent for, or is it something I want more for myself? Who is pushing whom?
Time factor. Does my child have enough time to devote to practicing? Don’t overload! Beware, many tweens want to quit if there isn’t enough time for friends. A University of Maryland study found that over the past 20 years the amount of time children ages nine to 12 spend participating in structured sports has increased by 35 percent.
Challenge factor. Is my child developmentally ready for the tasks I’m expecting, or am I pushing him beyond his internal timetable? The best expectations are realistic but also gently stretch your child “one step more.”
Teacher or coach factor. Is the coach or teacher skilled and tuned in to kids? Benjamin Bloom’s study of 120 immensely talented (and successful) individuals (in such fields as science, swimming, art and music) found that the first teacher was critical.
Worth it factor. Is this activity commitment worth the time, finances and energy for both my child and our family?

Be a good role model
Show your kids you don’t give up on a task even when things get difficult. Before starting a new task, make sure your child overhears you say, “I’m going to persevere, until I am successful.” Modeling the trait is always the No. 1 teaching method, so consciously tune up perseverance in your behavior. Create a family motto when it comes to perseverance such as: "Winners never quit, quitters never win," "We finish what you started," or "The Smiths don't give up!" When you live by a family motto of commitment, your children will be more likely to use it when facing a challenge and less likely to quit.

Instill a “growth mindset”
Research shows that kids who persist and excel recognize that success comes from hard work and practice, not luck or money or genetics. In fact, if kids believe that performance is due to effort, they will be less likely to give up and will work harder when the going gets tough. Use real examples — folks such as Jerry Rice, Pele, Vanessa and Serena Williams, Tiger Woods and Lance Armstrong — who reached the top because of hours and hours of practice. Teach your kid the 10,000-Hour Rule: “Did you know that studies found that the best artists, musicians, swimmers and skaters practiced at least 10,000 hours, or ten years, to reach their success? Success is all a matter of how hard you work.”

If your child wants to quit
An estimated 83 percent of kids aged six to 17 are involved in some kind of extracurricular activity, so sooner or later most parents will be faced with a child wanting to quit something. Here’s how to decide:

Don’t give in too quickly
While letting your kid quit may seem easier, beware. It may teach him it’s OK to quit or take the easy way out. If you let your child quit too quickly, he’ll never have the chance to experience success. (And weathering a bit of disappointment can actually help kids.) Try to postpone quitting: Encourage your kid to keep at it (at least a bit longer). Negotiate: “Stick with the cello until the end of the year, and you can be on the soccer team this summer.” Refuse without guilt: “Sorry, that was your commitment, you’re stuck with it.”

Hear your kid out
If your child’s “quitting behavior” is brand new or is escalating, then ask your child what’s really going on. Try to understand his quitting motive: “You were really jazzed when you signed up. What changed?” “What do you need to make it work?” “Would you like to continue, but with a different teacher or team?”

Look for a solution
Might there be a simple way to get him over the slump?Talk to the teacher or coach to get their take. Watch from the sidelines to see if your kid’s complaints of unfair treatment are legit. Your goal is to figure out what’s really going on, and whether there is something you can do to help your child hang in there and get over the slump. Here are four common problems, and solutions:
1. Task or placement too advanced is too difficult; too much pressure to perform. Solution: Take your expectations down a notch; switch the class or team to one that is not quite as accelerated.
2. Overscheduled; no down time or time to relax or be with friends. Solution:Free up time, drop one thing in that schedule.
3. Environment or teacher isn’t supportive; too harsh or punitive. Solution: Change the teacher or mentor; switch the team if needed.
4. Hasn’t experienced success yet, but it’s only been a short while. Solution: Get some help.  Get a tutor to help him with the math class. Hire a high school student to throw him extra pitches

How to decide whether to quit
You’ll need to weigh which lesson is more important: Helping your child learn to stick it out, or the realization that some activities just aren’t the right match. Here are five factors to help you decide:
1. Stress. Is it stressful enough to cause concerning behavioral changes in your child?
2. Joylessness. Is it mostly cheerless for the child? Has he stuck with the task for the required amount of time and just lost interest? Then it’s time to move on.
3. Beyond abilities. Despite his efforts, the activity is too difficult for his current abilities.
4. Poor coach or mentor. Not a good match for your child, yells too much, far too competitive, turns your kid off to the task, pushes “win at any cost,” unfair, not knowledgeable or offers poor advice, overall more harmful than helpful.
5. Gave it his best shot. Your child tried his hardest but things aren’t improving.

Worry if there’s a quitting pattern
Every kid wants to give up now and then. Especially from ages 3 to 6, it may not mean much. Be concerned when bailing out becomes a pattern with your older kid. Watch for these signs which could mean something else is going on and you should dig deeper:

1. Unwilling to try a task or stick with it, fearing failure or making a mistake       
2. Easily discouraged, upset or quick to angerwhen facing setbacks                    
3. Needs encouragement or the promise of a reward to complete a task
4. Relies on someone else to complete a task
5. Defensive or blames errors on others
6. Cheats, cuts corners, or makes excuses to not do the task
7. Gives up as the easy way out instead of really confronting the problem.                      

Resources for more reading:
Benjamin Bloom: Developing Talent in Young People
Carol Dweck: Mindset: The New Psychology of Success
Geoff Colvin: Talent Is Overrated: What Really Separate World-Class Performers From Everybody Else
Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi, Kevin Rathunde, and Samuel Whalen: Talented Teenagers: The Roots of Success and Failure
Harold Stevenson: The Learning Gap: Why Our Schools Are Failing and What We Can Learn From Japanese and Chinese Education

Michele Borba is an educational psychologist who frequently contributes to TODAY. A former classroom teacher, she has written 23 books; her latest is "The Big Book of Parenting Solutions."

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