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    >>> back now at 8:39. this morning on "today's woman" turning 40. the aging process is inevitable and we all deal with it differently. sarah brokaw is daughter of nbc's tom brokaw and she went on a quest to see the key to aging. she describes her journey into the next decade.

    >> reporter: personally, i was at the point in my life, being the age of 37, where i recognized that i was slowly but surely aging. i didn'tle feel like i had any idea as to what my 40s were going to look like. growing up in a family where my parents were not only married but they were blissfully wedded and then they had three daughters. we lived, i would say a pretty idyllic life. when i'm in my 20s i will have a job, meet my man. in my 30s i will have three kids. when i hit 40 i will go on to the next step in my career path. it didn't happen that way. i was 38. it was our 20th high school reunion . everyone was married. mostly every person in my class had a child. i was not married nor was i a parent and i chose not to go. after that moment i was pretty mad at myself. i thought, that's not me. here i'm not going because i felt ashamed for not going because i was too embarrassed that i wasn't married or had a kid. that was a moment of what do i do now, but i realized at that moment in order for me to proceed through life i had to reframe my thinking. i defined that moment rather than a moment of crisis as the sparkling moment. if i could say that i'm completely enlightened and satisfied i'm lying. i think what i'm capable of doing now versus when i was 35 is recognizing that events are inevitable. things are going to happen that you can't control. what you can control is how you choose to respond to those events.

    >> sarah's new book isle called 42, making the next decade the best of your life.

    >> good morning.

    >> this is about turning uh-oh moments into ah-ha moments.

    >> absolutely.

    >> it's tricky because women are afraid of aging.

    >> very much so. i wouldn't say all women are, but a majority of women are. i would honestly think that it's women who hit their mid 30s.

    >> what is it about the numbers whether it's 40, 50, 60?

    >> that causes fear?

    >> yeah.

    >> in our 20s i think we are given a lot of attention. that's the time where we are most relevant. we are at our prime. in our 30s is when we get attention because most of us are supposed to be married. most of us are supposed to have children. we're supposed to hit a certain point on our career path. then i think what happens is when we hit like 35 to 40 we slowly but surely realize that we have become a little less relevant. that's what we think. that's because of how society has dictated what it's like to be relevant.

    >> how do you turn an uh-oh moment into an ah-ha moment.

    >> i call it a sparkling moment.

    >> okay then.

    >> it could be a moment of crisis and i think that's when our fortitude is tested. it's a moment when we can say, how am i going to face this? i'm going to keep my hands over my eyes and remain fearful or remove my hands from my eyes and face life with confidence and curiosity. i think what we need to do in order to do that is to really think about the words that we use in order to do it properly. so for example, if i have a client in my practice or if i personally am going through something where i know it could be potentially anxiety-provoking, i have to think about i could either say i'm so scared i can't do this or i can say, huh, i wonder what the outcome will be. if you think about the language right there it automatically reframes my thinking. so i try to encourage other women in my practice as well as outside of practice to do the same thing.

    >> you talk about five core values that come into play. what are they?

    >> grace, connectedness, accomplishment without the monetary or material factor, adventure and spirituality.

    >> those are what you should focus on in.

    >> absolutely. that's the word. should. take the word "should" out. i would say you choose to incorporate those values in your everyday life . when you can do that by listening to your own voice and no one else's voice you have fortitude.

    >> there are a lot of viewers interested in the aging process or struggling with it. first one from naomi. i was defined by my career in my 20s, my kids in my 30s. i still have a lot to offer. my kids need me less and less. how do i define the rest of my life. 40 is a launching pad, but where am i going? the opposite problem you had. she's got all that and she's struggling.

    >> exactly right. it's interesting because she says i was defined by my career in my 20s and i would say this is now her opportunity to get into the front seat. she's no longer in the back seat. she can define who she s. we are now given permission to take on the role when we hit 40. i would say naomi, look at the values. define those values in your own words and something will come. she's in control. no one else is in control.

    >> you have to be in control. next from denise in north carolina . she says, to me, 40 means i'm no longer the young one in the bunch. i haven't done all the accomplished so i'm disappointed in myself.

    >> i'm curious what she feels she needs to accomplish. society makes us feel we need to accomplish things at a certain age. that's not true.

    >> is it important to keep a mental inventory of where you have been and where you are going?

    >> it depends. someone said to me if you compare yourself to others and what they have accomplished it's compare and despair. if you just focus on your life and listen to your own voice, then, of course, you will continue to be curious about what you can accomplish.

    >> okay. one more e-mail here. i have been dreading turning 40 since i turned 30. my god. it feels like it's the end of my youth. it's also a wake-up call to know half my life is over. now that i'm turning 40 though no one has given me great words of wisdom . mostly i get the jokes and puns meant to be funny, but i'm not taking them well at all. i hope others are taking it better than i am. i just dread it totally.

    >> once again it's the external factors, the external voices that many women are hearing. turn down the volume, listen to your voice. i also believe that with loss of youth we do lose youth but with the loss of youth there is the gain of insight. it is a gain of wisdom. that's what is most important. i also think you can say, everyone has hit this age. i'm not the only person who ages.

    >> when you had the uh-oh moment how did you specifically turn it into a sparkling moment in your life? when you said, i'm not married, i don't have kids.

    >> that's a wonderful question. i had to remove my hands from my eyes and take a look and say, one, no one cares whether i'm married or have kids. that's just in my own head. i had to think about what i do have which is a wonderful support system that includes my family and my friends. i clearly have my sense of humor. i also have, i would believe, the smarts. i'm in fantastic shape. i also have curiosity. if i can take those five factors, i'm in wonderful shape. that's how i look at it. i think by using those five factors, including those five values that's what helped me create a sparkling moment out of an uh-oh moment.

    >> thank you so much. up

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The aging process is inevitable, and each day we all get a little bit older. Sarah Brokaw, a therapist, author and daughter of NBC’s Tom Brokaw, went on a quest to find the key to making the second half of her life the best yet. She describes her journey into the next decade in her new book, “Fortytude: Making the Next Decades the Best Years of Your Life — Through the 40s, 50s, and Beyond.” Here’s an excerpt.

My Own Story

Recently, I had a sparkling moment when I realized that my life didn’t necessarily match up with my parents’ values or their way of life. Their traditional values — work hard, come home and eat dinner with the family, do your chores, go to bed, and do the same thing again the next day — didn’t reflect my goals and desires.

My father, NBC news anchor Tom Brokaw, had such admiration and reverence for the World War II generation that he coined the term, “The Greatest Generation.” He wrote a book about those Americans who fought in World War II or remained on the home front taking care of the country’s needs, and those who built the U.S. back up following the war. To this day, my dad maintains a hardworking, self-sacrificing approach to life based on his traditional set of values.

My father and mother (who have been blissfully married for 47 years) projected these values onto their daughters, for which I am extremely grateful. Yet it did not dawn on me until recently that I was questioning the choices I had made thus far in life, because they had not led me to the traditional milestones of womanhood: engagement, marriage, and children.

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I experienced this moment of clarity when an investment banker client of mine told me a story about her own parents. She had complained to her father that she was exhausted by the strain of her work. He had replied, “There were so many people in my generation who didn’t have just one job, they had two. And you would never hear them complain.” It sounded exactly like something my own father would say. As I discussed ways in which this client could free herself from parental expectations, and why she should feel entitled to her own experience, I realized that I ought to be following my own advice.

I have known for a long time that I didn’t have it in me to follow the traditional path — nor did I desire to do so. I always have felt that being authentic and obeying my heart mattered most. I have found it profoundly scary at times not to follow the path that my parents forged for themselves, or what society portrays as the “right thing to do” — husband, children, house. But I generally believe that I’m doing the right thing for me. So why do I allow myself, like the client I just mentioned, to feel undermined by the very values I choose not to ascribe to? Why do I sink into a place of self-doubt, feeling somehow like a failure because I haven’t traveled the traditional road?

Many of us hear our parents’ criticisms, disapproval, and condescension in our heads from time to time — and I’m no exception. That is why when I’m working with a client who is expressing fear over any particular issue, I ask, “Whose voices are you hearing?” So often, our parents’ belief systems continue to influence the choices we make. When I work with these women, we discuss how they can break free from the parental voices still “calling the shots” and instead discover who they are and who they will be as they go forward in life.

What amazed me during my own “aha moment” was that I somehow had fallen into this very trap that I so often help my clients get out of. While I had lived the life I wanted up to that point, I was still letting my parents’ traditional values be judge and jury. I was unconsciously measuring myself according to their standards. I was listening to their voices, rather than my own.

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When I graduated from college, I didn’t know what I wanted to do with my life. So I took my Duke University degree with me to Guam where, at the equivalent of a Club Med for Japanese couples, I slid my 5’2” body into an ill-fitting faux satin pink strapless dress that was designed for a 5’10” woman, lip-synced to “Santa Baby” during the evening, and then rose early the following morning to teach snorkelling in an outdoor aquarium. How ridiculous is that? I am sure they were incredibly proud of me at the Duke career counselling center!

After lip syncing and breathing through a tube lost their novelty, I moved to Tokyo, where I worked as the only American in the Patagonia retail store, and honed my drinking skills to great effect. While that experience certainly didn’t help me lose the “freshman 15” I had packed on at Duke, it did offer many benefits. I learned the language and immersed myself in the culture, adjusting to unfamiliar customs such as no eating in public, taking off shoes before going inside, and bowing to introduce myself rather than shaking hands. I lived in a tiny Japanese neighbourhood with no other expatriates around, so I had no place to seek refuge. It forced me to grow up fast. It also was the first time in my life when my last name didn’t raise eyebrows or provoke questions, which was a relief.

From Tokyo I moved to San Francisco, where I committed myself to figuring out my next step. People were still telling me that I had my whole life ahead of me, that I could do whatever I wanted, that I was young and the world was full of possibilities. But at 26, I felt it was time to get serious. I decided to attend graduate school at New York University. I graduated from the School of Social Work two years later, worked in a hospital for another two years, and then opened my own private psychotherapy practice at age 30. I wasn’t married with children, but I had my career. 

Shortly after I began my practice, the tragic events of 9/11 occurred. Consequently, I began working with deeply traumatized individuals who had been in the buildings but were able to escape, and also with people who had observed what happened. I began two support groups, and saw almost 300 people within the first three months after the attack. Working with the survivors of 9/11 made me appreciate fully how important the mental health profession is. Any lingering concerns about therapy being something that was a luxury for the wealthy rather than a service of real value to the world vanished. It quickly became apparent how desperately people needed help. I was honored to be able to step up and utilize my skills for the benefit of the community. 

Fast forward to a year and a half ago. I was nearing 40. According to society’s dictates, I was supposed to be feeling as if time were running out. And I did start to panic. “Why should I feel this way?” I wondered. “I’m successful, but I’m not married and don’t have kids. While 40 is not old, I no longer hear people telling me that I have my whole life ahead of me. Most women I see my age have the house/family/husband package — I don’t. What, then, is my identity? What are my values? How can I get excited about who I am, where I am, and who and where I want to be, while my clock is ticking?” I looked around at the most capable women in my practice and saw that many of them were struggling with the same questions.

Then I had my epiphany with the client who brought up her father’s judgment, and realized that I was still stuck measuring myself according to my parents’ values. When I looked back at my sometimes-misguided life path, I discovered that actually I have been on a wonderful adventure thus far. There were many times when I didn’t know what I truly needed, and there were times when, out of fear, I relied on other people’s opinions and advice to help me make decisions. But all in all, I have had many incredible, eye-opening experiences as an adult. As soon as I was able to evaluate my life without hearing my parents’ voices, I was able to focus on what I have a achieved thus far. I was able to see even my “failures” as growth opportunities that shaped me into the person I am today. Shifting my focus in this way has helped me approach “the big 4-0” with fortytude. 

Excerpted from "Fortytude: Making the Next Decades the Best Years of Your Life — Through the 40s, 50s, and Beyond" by Sarah Brokaw. Copyright © 2011. Reprinted by permission of Voice Books.

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