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    >>> now our exclusive interview with george w. bush , his first since leaving the white house . his memoir "decision points" comes out today. we talked about the big choices the president made during his eight years in office. mr. president you have remained mostly silent, largely silent over the last couple of years. why did you remain silent?

    >> well, for two reasons, number one, i didn't want to get out there anymore, i didn't want to get back into what i call the swamp. i'm trying to regain a sense of anonymity. and the other thing i don't think it's good for the presidency for a former president to be opining about his successor.

    >> he is speaking out now about his own time in office.

    >> let's talk about waterboarding.

    >> okay.

    >> we believe america 's going to be attacked again. there's all kinds of intelligence coming n and one of the high value al qaeda operators was khalid sheikh mohammed and they said he had information, i said found out what he knows. i said are the techniques legal? the lawyers said they are, so i said use them.

    >> so it did not fall within the --

    >> anti-torture act.

    >> you say it's legal and the lawyers told me, you got the justice department to give you the legal guidance and the legal memos that you wanted. they got legal opinions they wanted from their own people.

    >> o'he obviously doesn't know. i hope mr. kaine reads the book. he can draw whatever conclusion they want. but i will tell you this, using those techniques saved lives. my job was to protect america and i did.

    >> on the decision to go to war in iraq , he says he was the decider. in a conversation i think over lunch that you had with dick cheney in a period of buildup to the war in iraq , he said are you going to take care of this guy or not? first of all i was surprised by the phone that the vice president would use with you, was it surprising to you?

    >> we had a very frank relationship.

    >> but was dick chain pushing you to go to war in iraq ?

    >> it didn't matter if he was or not. i am the guy who makes the decisions and i wanted to give diplomat my a chance.

    >> he's still haunted by the fact that the intelligence turned out to be wrong, and weapons of mass destruction were not found in iraq.

    >> your words, no one was more sickened or angry than i was when we didn't find weapons of mass destruction . you still have a sickening feeling.

    >> i do.

    >> was there every a consideration of apologizing to the american people ?

    >> apologizing would mean that the decision was the wrong decision. i don't believe it was the wrong decision.

    >> if you know what you know now, you would still go to war in iraq ?

    >> i first of all didn't have that luxury. i will say definitely the world is better off without saddam hussein in power. as are 25 million people who now have a chance to live in freedom.

    >> in the summer of 2006 as iraq descended into chaos, he made the unpopular decision to send 20,000 additional troops in.

    >> what made you think that would be successful? give me your thinking on that?

    >> i wasn't sure what would be successful, but u knew what wasn't going to be successful.

    >> the reaction to the surge immediately, one critic called it the most dangerous decision since vietnam. how hard a decision was the surge for you, where does it rank?

    >> it was a very difficult decision. made easier by the fact that i had met with many families of the fallen who said to me, do not let my loved ones sacrifice go in vain and i really didn't care about popularity. everybody wants to be liked, but as the commander in chief, i was more interested in success than my personal popularity.

    >> you said that history is not ready to judge you yet.

    >> that's right.

    >> it's going to take time.

    >> true.

    >> when it does come about, president bush , do you think you'll be judged a judge says or a failure?

    >> i hope a success f i'm going to be dead when they figure it out. i'm comfortable knowing that i gave it my all and i love america .

    >> he's another peace with a lot of those decisions and he will be live in our studio tomorrow morning right here on "today." you can post questions for the president on twitter.com and on our facebook pages as well.

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Photos: Bush's Legacy

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  1. George W. Bush

    Presidential hopeful George W. Bush waves to a crowd of supporters gathered in Kentucky on July 29, 2000. Bush lost the New Hampshire primary to Sen. John McCain but rebounded to claim the Republican nomination for president in 2000. (Timothy A. Clary / AFP - Getty Images) Back to slideshow navigation
  2. Ballot recount

    Broward County, Fla. canvassing board member Judge Robert Rosenberg uses a magnifying glass to examine a disputed ballot cast during the 2000 election. A ballot recount was ordered in parts of Florida following voting machine errors. Both Al Gore and the Florida Supreme Court ordered a recount to determine a winner. For 36 days after the election, the results in Florida remained in doubt, and so did the winner of the presidency. Bush emerged victorious when the U.S. Supreme Court, in a 5 to 4 ruling, put an end to the ballot counting. (Alan Diaz / AP) Back to slideshow navigation
  3. Bush wins in 2000

    George W. Bush takes the presidential oath of office on Jan. 20, 2001. The president's daughters Jenna and Barbara stand at his side along with their mother Laura. President Bill Clinton and Vice President Al Gore are seen standing on the right. (Doug Mills / AP) Back to slideshow navigation
  4. Terror strikes on 9/11

    President Bush stands with firefighter Bob Beck at the World Trade Center in New York, three days after the 9/11 attacks. (Doug Mills / AP) Back to slideshow navigation
  5. Troops sent to Afghanistan

    Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld watches television as President Bush announces that U.S. troops are engaging terrorists in Afghanistan on Oct. 7, 2001. Bush sent troops into Afghanistan to hunt for Osama bin Laden and other terrorists linked to the 9/11 attacks. (David Hume Kennerly / Getty Images) Back to slideshow navigation
  6. Wanted: Dead or alive

    Osama bin Laden and his top lieutenant Ayman al-Zawahri are seen at an undisclosed location in this television image broadcast on Oct. 7, 2001. Bin Laden praised God for the 9/11 terrorist attacks on the U.S. In the days following the attack, President Bush named bin Laden the prime suspect in the 9/11 attacks. (Al Jazeera via AP) Back to slideshow navigation
  7. U.S. detains suspects

    U.S. Military Police guard detainees in orange jumpsuits on Jan. 11, 2002 in a holding area at Camp X-Ray at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. The legality of holding suspected terrorists indefinitely at the Guantanamo Bay facility has become a lightning rod of controversy. More than 750 detainees have been held there since 2001. (Shane T. McCoy / U.S. Navy via Getty Images) Back to slideshow navigation
  8. Bush declares an 'axis of evil'

    In his first State of the Union address, President Bush declares that an 'axis of evil' consisting of North Korea, Iran, and Iraq was 'arming to threaten the peace of the world.' (Paul J .Richards / AFP - Getty Images) Back to slideshow navigation
  9. Strong allies

    President Bush and British Prime Minister Tony Blair deliver statements to the media at Camp David on Sept. 7, 2002. Blair was an ally to Bush and supported his decision to intervene in Iraq. (Paul J. Richards / AFP) Back to slideshow navigation
  10. Powell addresses the U.N.

    U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell addresses a meeting of the United Nations Security Council on Feb. 14, 2003. Powell was tasked with presenting evidence that Iraq was harboring weapons of mass destruction in order to get a U.N. resolution authorizing the use of military force. (Kathy Willens / AP) Back to slideshow navigation
  11. Baghdad falls

    Iraqi civilians and U.S. soldiers pull down a statue of Saddam Hussein in downtown Baghdad on April 9, 2003. The statue fell more than two weeks after U.S. forces invaded Iraq and started a hunt for Saddam Hussein. (Jerome Delay / AP) Back to slideshow navigation
  12. Mission accomplished?

    On May 1, 2003, President Bush declared the end of major combat in Iraq aboard the aircraft carrier USS Abraham Lincoln off the California coast. (J. Scott Applewhite / AP) Back to slideshow navigation
  13. Torture at Abu Ghraib

    This photo taken in late 2003 shows an unidentified detainee standing on a box with a bag on his head and wires attached to him at the Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq. Accounts of abuse and torture of prisoners at the U.S.-run prison came to the public's attention in 2004. Seventeen soldiers and officers were removed from duty and seven were sent to prison for the treatment of prisons at Abu Ghriab. (AP) Back to slideshow navigation
  14. Bush, Kerry debate

    President George W. Bush and Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry face off during the second presidential debate at Washington University on Oct. 8, 2004. Bush defeated Kerry in the 2004 presidential election. (Mario Tama / Getty Images) Back to slideshow navigation
  15. Voting in Iraq

    A woman displays her ink-stained finger after voting in Iraq on Jan. 30, 2005. The 2005 vote was the first free, democratic election to be held in Iraq in 50 years. (Chris Hondros / Getty Images) Back to slideshow navigation
  16. Bush's boys

    From left, Press Secretary Scott McClellan, political strategist Karl Rove, Vice President Chief of Staff I. Lewis Libby, White House communications director Dan Bartlett and Vice President Dick Cheney listen to the president deliver a speech in the Rose Garden on July 1, 2005. Since this photo was taken, McClellan has stepped down, Rove left his post and Libby was convicted of obstruction of justice, perjury and lying in the investigation of the leaking of a CIA operative's name. (Stephen Crowley / The New York Times via Redux) Back to slideshow navigation
  17. Saddam on trial

    Saddam Hussein addresses the court during his trial in Baghdad, Iraq Thursday Dec. 22, 2005. Saddam and his co-defendants are charged with ordering the killing of more than 140 Shiite men in the town of Dujail, following an assasination attempt on Saddam in July 1982. (AP Photo/John Moore, Pool) (John Moore / Pool via AP) Back to slideshow navigation
  18. Hurricane Katrina

    In this photo taken on Aug. 30, 2005, a victim of Hurricane Katrina is evacuated by helicopter over the devastation caused by the high winds and heavy flooding in the greater New Orleans area. President Bush was sharply criticized for what some called his lethargic response to the natural disaster. (Vincent Laforet / Pool via AP) Back to slideshow navigation
  19. No Child Left Behind

    President Bush delivers a speech on education at an elementary school outside of Baltimore on Jan. 9, 2006. The 'No Child Left Behind Act' was aimed at closing the achievement gap between low-income students and their richer counterparts. It was one of the big tenets of Bush's domestic agenda and was signed into law in early 2002. (Evan Vucci / AP) Back to slideshow navigation
  20. New Supreme Court

    Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito and Chief Justice John Roberts walk down the steps of the court house on Feb. 16, 2006. President Bush initially nominated Roberts to replace the retiring Sandra Day O'Connor, but when Chief Justice William Rehnquist died, Bush withdrew that nomination and nominated Roberts to be Chief Justice. The president then nominated Alito to fill O'Connor's seat. (Alex Wong / Getty Images) Back to slideshow navigation
  21. Bush in India

    The president is surrounded by Indian women after watching a women's discussion group in Hyderabad, India on March 3, 2006. Bush made a three-day visit to India to renew ties with the nuclear nation. (Mandel Ngan / AFP - Getty Images) Back to slideshow navigation
  22. Prescription drug reform

    Health and Human Services Secretary Michael Leavitt points to a laptop computer screen as President Bush watches volunteers and seniors use the internet to sign up for prescription drugs. Bush's program provides prescription drug benefits to Medicare recipients through private insurance companies. (Paul J. Richards / AFP - Getty Images) Back to slideshow navigation
  23. Talks with Pakistan and Afghanistan

    President Bush appears with Pakistan President Pervez Musharraf and Afghan President Hamid Karzai in the Rose Garden on Sept. 27, 2006. The trio met to discuss cross-border relations between Afghanistan and Pakistan. (Mandel Ngan / AFP - Getty Images) Back to slideshow navigation
  24. Gonzales resigns

    U.S. Attorney General Alberto Gonzales announces his resignation during a news conference at the Justice Department on Aug. 27, 2007. Gonzales stepped down amid controversy over the firing of eight U.S. attorneys. (Jim Bourg / Reuters) Back to slideshow navigation
  25. Rice talks Mideast peace

    Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice meets with Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak and Senior Palestinian negotiator Saeb Erek at the White House on Nov. 28, 2007. Bush invited the two leaders to Washington to initiate a new round of peace negotiations. (Chip Somodevilla / Getty Images) Back to slideshow navigation
  26. Border fence

    A metal fence forms a barrier along the U.S.-Mexico border. The fence was a result of the Secure Fence Act, calling for 698 miles of border fences to try to keep illegal immigrants from entering the U.S. Critics argue that extensive fencing damages fragile desert environments and divides border neighborhoods. (David McNew / Getty Images) Back to slideshow navigation
  27. Kyoto protests

    Thousands of climate change protestors march toward the U.S. Embassy in London on Dec. 8, 2007. Mass demonstrations have occurred worldwide since President Bush opposed signing the Kyoto Protocol which seeks to impose mandatory targets for reducing greenhouse gas emissions. (Andy Rain / EPA) Back to slideshow navigation
  28. U.S.-Russian relations

    Russian President Vladimir Putin and President Bush talk during a bilateral meeting at Putin's summer retreat in Sochi, Russia on April 6, 2008. (Artyom Korotayev / Epsilon via Getty Images) Back to slideshow navigation
  29. Economy in crisis

    The president walks alongside Chairman of the Federal Reserve Ben Bernanke, Chairman of the Securities and Exchange Commission Christopher Cox and Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson prior to a speech on the economy on Sept. 19, 2008. The president called together his economic team to discuss a weakening economy and a global financial crisis. (Saul Loeb / AFP - Getty Images) Back to slideshow navigation
  30. Hail and farewell

    The president hugs first lady Laura Bush as he gives an emotional wave of appreciation after speaking on the transition to administration employees on Nov. 6, 2008, on the South Lawn of the White House. (Paul J. Richards / AFP - Getty Images) Back to slideshow navigation
  31. Changing of the guard

    President George W. Bush,first lady Laura Bush, Michele Obama and president-elect Barack Obama stand outside the White House on Nov. 10, 2008. Obama visited the White House at the invitation of Bush ahead of his Jan. 20, 2009 inauguration. (Tim Sloan / AFP - Getty Images) Back to slideshow navigation
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