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    MATT LAUER, co-host: Now the fallout over National Public Radio 's decision to fire news analyst Juan Williams over a remark he made on another network. He says he was just speaking his mind. NBC 's Norah O'Donnell is in Washington with the latest. Norah , good morning.

    NORAH O'DONNELL reporting: Hey, good morning, Matt. NPR is now under fire for dumping Juan Williams after his comments about Muslims on Fox News and the right has declared war on NPR . Bill O'Reilly , Sarah Palin and Mike Huckabee all want to starve NPR of the limited public funding that's part of its budget and Newt Gingrich wants Congress to investigate.

    Unidentified Reporter: Juan Williams fired by NPR .

    Mr. KARL ROVE: They have to cast him now in a particularly, I think, vulgar and pitiful way.

    O'DONNELL: On cable TV Thursday night...

    Mr. GLENN BECK: It's insanity.

    O'DONNELL: ...an angry chorus defending fired news analyst Juan Williams .

    Mr. BILL O'REILLY: Juan Williams was not giving an opinion about Muslims on airplanes, he was simply stating what he felt.

    O'DONNELL: Williams , a long-time fixture on cable and radio, was fired from his NPR analyst gig for these comments he made about Muslims on Monday.

    Mr. JUAN WILLIAMS: I mean, look, Bill , I'm not a bigot, you know the kind of books I've written about the civil rights movement in this country, but when I get on a plane, I've got to tell you, if I see people who are in Muslim garb, and I think, you know, they're identifying themselves first and foremost as Muslims , I get worried, I get nervous.

    O'DONNELL: Williams is unapologetic, calling it political correctness run amok.

    Mr. WILLIAMS: The fact that here I am engaging you, Bill O'Reilly , right...

    Mr. O'REILLY: Right.

    Mr. WILLIAMS: ...and we're having an honest discussion. This is what America should be.

    Mr. O'REILLY: OK.

    Mr. WILLIAMS: People having a real debate.

    O'DONNELL: In a leaked internal memo, NPR boss Vivian Schiller says they fired Williams because "news analysts may not take personal public positions on controversial issues."

    Ms. VIVIAN SCHILLER: His feelings that he expressed on Fox News are really between him and his, you know, psychiatrist or his publicist or take your pick, but it is not compatible with a news analyst.

    O'DONNELL: Schiller later apologized for her psychiatrist comment. But Williams has been offering his opinion for a decade on Fox and his firing unleashed fury on the right, which has long accused NPR of liberal bias. Sarah Palin tweeted, " NPR defends First Amendment right but will fire you if you exercise it." But there was also support from the left. Whoopi Goldberg , who stormed off " The View " when O'Reilly last visited, agrees with him on this one.

    Ms. WHOOPI GOLDBERG: In all of our opinions, it seems, the firing of Juan was a total mistake and sends the wrong message.

    O'DONNELL: Williams is just the latest TV personality dumped for controversial comments about race and religion, like Rick Sanchez and Helen Thomas .

    Ms. MATEA GOLD (Tribune Washington Bureau): Any time there is this kind of public intersection of debate about the role of Muslims and terrorism, it is a real fear in our society right now.

    O'DONNELL: Now Williams is no worse off after his firing from NPR and Fox -- in fact, Fox has announced it is expanding his role and giving him a fat raise, a new three-year contract for nearly $2 million. Matt :

TODAY staff and wire
updated 10/22/2010 8:48:16 AM ET 2010-10-22T12:48:16

"I'm not a bigot," longtime news analyst Juan Williams said. Then he talked about getting nervous on a plane when he sees people in Muslim dress. Fair game for one of his employers, Fox News Channel, but a firable offense for the other, NPR.

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Muslim groups were outraged, saying that Williams' remarks Monday on Fox's "The O'Reilly Factor" endorsed the idea that all Muslims should be viewed with suspicion. But conservatives and even some liberals said NPR went too far in axing his contract for being honest about his feelings in an interview where he also said it is important to distinguish moderate Muslims from extremists.

Video: Outrage over Williams' dismissal (on this page)

The opinions Williams expressed on Fox News over the years had already strained his relationship with NPR to the point that the public radio network asked him to stop using the NPR name when he appeared on Bill O'Reilly's show. NPR CEO Vivian Schiller said Thursday that Williams had veered from journalistic ethics several times before Monday's comments.

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Controversial opinions should not come from NPR reporters or news analysts, Schiller said, adding that Williams was not a commentator or columnist for NPR.

Story: Williams signs new contract with Fox News

Schiller said whatever feelings Williams has about Muslims should be between him and "his psychiatrist or his publicist — take your pick." In a post later on NPR's website — where comments were heavily against Williams' firing — she apologized for making the "thoughtless" psychiatrist remark.

In a memo to her staff and affiliate stations, Schiller said the comments violated NPR's code of ethics, which says journalists should not participate in media "that encourage punditry and speculation rather than fact-based analysis."

Fox News, meanwhile, announced it had re-signed Williams to a multiyear deal that will give him an expanded role with the network — and that Williams will host O'Reilly's show on Friday. Chairman Roger Ailes described Williams as "a staunch defender of liberal viewpoints" and "an honest man whose freedom of speech is protected by Fox News on a daily basis."

'I said what I meant to say'
Williams stood by his remarks Thursday. He told Fox News his statement was not bigoted, as he said NPR news executive Ellen Weiss implied Wednesday when she fired him by phone.

His side of the story
Juan Williams appeared on Fox News on Thursday morning to discuss his dismissal from NPR.

"Wednesday afternoon I got a message on my cell phone from Ellen Weiss who's the head of news at NPR asking me to call," Williams said Thursday on Fox News. "When I called back, she said, 'What did you say? What did you mean to say?' and I said, 'I said what I meant to say which is that it's an honest experience that when I'm in an airport and I see people who are in Muslim garb who identify themselves first and foremost as Muslims, I do a double take. I have a moment of anxiety or fear given what happened on 9/11. That's just the reality.' And, she went on to say that crosses the line and I said what line is that? And she went on to somehow suggest that I had made a bigoted statement. I said that's not a bigoted statement.

"...And, then she said, 'This has been decided.' I don't even get a chance to come in and we do this eye ball to eye ball, person to person, we have a conversation," Williams said. "I've been there for more than 10 years. We don't have that chance to have a conversation about this? And she said, 'There is nothing you can say that will change my mind. This has been decided above me and we're terminating your contract.'

Williams made the comments at issue while discussing whether O'Reilly was wrong to have said "Muslims killed us on 9/11" during an appearance last week on ABC's "The View." O'Reilly's comment prompted co-hosts Whoopi Goldberg and Joy Behar to walk off the set, but Goldberg defended Williams on Thursday.

"The point he was trying to say is, 'I get nervous,' and that's OK," Goldberg said. "Firing him for saying that, I think, is kind of ridiculous."

Protests over firing
Republicans denounced NPR's decision. Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich told Fox News that Congress should investigate NPR for censorship and consider cutting off its public funding.

Paid Fox News contributors Sarah Palin and Mike Huckabee didn't shy from commenting on the subject, Politico is reporting.

"NPR defends 1st Amendment Right, but will fire u if u exercise it," Palin tweeted. "Juan Williams: u got taste of Left's hypocrisy, they screwed up firing you."

Politico reports that Huckabee went further in his criticism, calling on Congress to pull funding from NPR.

“NPR has discredited itself as a forum for free speech and a protection of the First Amendment rights of all and has solidified itself as the purveyor of politically correct pabulum and protector of views that lean left,” Huckabee said. “It is time for the taxpayers to start making cuts to federal spending, and I encourage the new Congress to start with NPR,” he added.

Conservative bloggers also defended Williams on Thursday, blasting NPR's decision.

"All Juan Williams did is say both exactly how he feels and how many, many other Americans feel on this subject," wrote Erick Erickson on his "Red State" blog. "The man's body of work makes clear he is no bigot. But we sure can't offend Muslims can we?"

O'Reilly also called Thursday for an immediate suspension of taxpayer funding for NPR and said that Williams reflected the views of many Americans.

Federal grants provide less than 2 percent — or $3.3 million — of NPR's $166 million annual budget. It is funded primarily by its affiliates, corporate sponsors and major donors.

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Beginning of controversy
O'Reilly had invited Williams on his show Monday to discuss his spat with hosts from "The View."

"Where am I going wrong here, Juan?" O'Reilly asked.

Williams told O'Reilly, "I think you're right," and said that "political correctness can lead to some kind of paralysis where you don't address reality."

"I mean, look, Bill, I'm not a bigot. You know the kind of books I've written about the civil rights movement in this country," he said. "But when I get on a plane, I got to tell you, if I see people who are in Muslim garb and I think, you know, they are identifying themselves first and foremost as Muslims, I get worried. I get nervous."

He went on to say that it is wrong to believe all Muslims are extremists, just as it would be wrong to think all Christians are extremists because of the actions of a few.

"We don't want, in America, people to have their rights violated, to be attacked because they hear rhetoric from Bill O'Reilly and they act crazy," Williams said.

Support for NPR
Before Williams was fired, the Council on American-Islamic Relations said a news organization would not tolerate such commentary from a journalist about other racial, ethnic or religious minority groups. Early this month, CNN fired anchor Rick Sanchez for comments that included questioning whether Jews should be considered a minority.

"NPR should address the fact that one of its news analysts seems to believe that all airline passengers who are perceived to be Muslim can legitimately be viewed as security threats," CAIR National Executive Director Nihad Awad said.

Society of Professional Journalists President Hagit Limor said Thursday that although the group supports Williams' right to free speech, "Based on our code of ethics, which advises avoiding stereotyping for any reason ... we understand the rationale that may be behind NPR's decision."

Williams was a longtime reporter, columnist and editorial writer at The Washington Post. He has written extensively on the civil rights movement, including a book on the African-American religious experience and a biography of Supreme Court Justice Thurgood Marshall, the first black justice.

Williams has been with Fox News since 1997. His appearances have been an issue for NPR in the past, including his remarks about Michelle Obama on a 2009 episode of "The O'Reilly Factor."

"Michelle Obama, you know, she's got this Stokely-Carmichael-in-a-designer-dress thing going. ... her instinct is to start with this 'Blame America,' you know, 'I'm the victim,'" Williams said, according to an account by NPR's Ombudsman Alicia Shepard. Carmichael was a civil rights activist who coined the phrase "black power."

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Schiller said Williams' comments about Michelle Obama also violated the ethics code, but NPR executives wanted to give Williams a second chance.

One NPR employee, national political correspondent Mara Liasson, remains a Fox News contributor, and there was no sign that would change. "Mara's work on NPR and elsewhere is consistent with our standards and practices," NPR spokeswoman Anna Christopher said.

Dori J. Maynard, the president of the Robert C. Maynard Institute for Journalism Education — a renowned institute that trains minority journalists — said NPR may have missed an opportunity by firing Williams. It could have broadcast a town hall-style program, or even a series, exploring why Williams made the remarks and feels the way he does.

"I hate what he said," Maynard said during the Associated Press Managing Editors conference in St. Petersburg, Fla. "But he didn't say something, unfortunately, that other people aren't thinking. So we have to talk about it. Not talking about things don't make them go away."

The Associated Press contributed to this report.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.


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